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  • #16
    Hmm to me your score seems normal. My 5400 rpm HD gets only 8665
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    • #17
      xortam,

      the smiley in my earlier post was meant to indicate the presence of a joke. Jokes shouldn´t have to be explained, so I won´t.

      SCSI TA stands for SCSI Trade Association, as in www.scsita.com
      .

      Sorry for any unintended inconvenience.

      rubank

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      • #18
        You meant http://www.scsita.org/
        I still don't know what you mean about writing an OS. AFA a joke ... maybe its a cultural thing but the smiley is the only thing that's indicative of a joke to me. I'll drop it.
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        • #19
          on http://www.tweakxp.com there is some tweaks to improve the performance of NTFS on Win XP.Allthough I doubt it will do you any good.

          My personal expereince with NTFS :

          Works great on my boot partition but NOT anywhere else !
          It simply can't keep up with FAT32 when it comes to allround HDD performance !

          Defragmenting is a whole different story ... NTFS is 4-5 times faster than FAT32 when defragmenting a HDD.

          Selecting AutoDetect to none in the BIOS can, in WinDoze XP, have an unfortunate effect on DVD drives.It can make them waaaaay slower in their DVD mode. The keyword here being .... CAN .... you will have to test it yourself.
          Put a DVD in the drive and RIP it to HDD and watch the extraction speed.You can use either DVDDecryptor or SmartRipper .. both can be found at http://www.doom9.org
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          • #20
            I got similar results with sandra on XPwith onboard via controllers and a promise controller so I would say that Sandra may have a problem with XP. Which version are you using?

            Defraging NTFS is faster than fat32 come on your kidding. What defragger are you using? Diskeeper or speed disk takes ages did you fall alseep while you were doing it?
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            • #21
              Heh, just a update..

              Yesterday i started tweaking everything suggested here, after making a change to standard ide and when it make things even worse i tryed to get things back to the way it was...

              WELL, it sure wasnt as smooth as i expected.. installed the previous drivers and booted. It took 3-5 times longer than normal to boot to XP, HD performance went from poor to CRAP. Tried installing every driver that i could find, finally when i changed the cable that i was using i FINALLY got it back where i was ( i was using a ATA66 cable that came with the mb, changed it to a normal cable that i found in my "computer junk"-pile ), well hopefully the change from HD+DVD/CDRW+HD to HD+HD/CDRW+DVD helped some, after i saw how BAD the things MIGHT get, im pretty happy now with the performance im getting.

              Got my NTFS drives defragged, it took about 5-6 hours on my primary hd ( well it stopped and said cant defrag the rest of the files, but when a did a analyze right after that it said you SHOULD defrag this drive, well go figure.. i started the damn thing 5-6 times and finally got most of the files the way i wanted ).

              Havent tried any games yet, have to read to pass SOME exams.

              PeTe

              Oh, made a HUGE improvement on 3Dmark2001, 7209 to 7210. And when i did the Sandra tests, i run the latest version that i downloaded 2-3 days ago from SiSoft.

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              • #22
                Just tried benchmarking a few computers at work with a slightly latest version of sandra and got scores a little higher than yours but then they're 7200 rpm units.
                I wouldn't worry about it too much.
                What does your event viewer say about your computer when you're doing the defrag. Check for it errors like time outs for example.
                Yes as you noticed defrag is very slow on ntfs.
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                • #23
                  Maybe Sandra can not yet speak XP fluently as suggested earlier.

                  With 7200 WD400BB units the latest Sandra returns 21000 scores in W2K on Intel 845 mobos here.

                  The IBM 5200 units I have lying around returns about 14000 on latest Sandra under W2K

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                  • #24
                    PeTe,
                    The HD access during games may be some background process. I know a number of people that would have this problem with Win9x. The problem came from the default MS Office install, which installed "Find Fast". This would scan and log the entire filesystem every two hours, causing the slowdowns you describe.
                    Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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                    • #25
                      Wombat,

                      I have allways disabled Find-fast from office setup, but cant really remeber the last time i installed OfficeXP, but if it would run it, i would find a ref. to it in StartUp ( = Run in registry ), right ?

                      PeTe

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                      • #26
                        Pete, no no. You see it's running as a service now.

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                        • #27
                          I'm not kidding about NTFS being 4-5 times faster than FAT32 when it comes to defragging my boot-partition !

                          I'm using diskeeper v.7.0 because it can do boot defragging !
                          I also tried NU speedDisk .. also 4-5 times faster on NTFS than FAT32 on the same partition however NU SpeedDisk leaves a HUGE cap on the front of the partition reserved for indexing and shit.(Don't like that)

                          Just for the Record ... I have disabled DOS 8.3 compatability and the Indexing Service on the NTFS partition !
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                          • #28
                            Kosh,

                            you can´t compare the full Diskeeper to the standard issue XP shit.

                            Unfortunately I don´t have no. 7, but I can defrag my XP partition from withing win98 using no. 6, and that doesn´t take long, providied it´s FAT32 (one of my XP disks always is).

                            Defragging anything in XP will approximately consume the time it takes for your lawn to grow an inch.

                            By the way, just for fun I just reconverted my NTFS partition to FAT32 - and the Sandra score jumped quite a bit.
                            On the other hand, so did the score for one of my other disks, though no change was made there! So maybe we shouldn´t trust Sandra all that much...

                            rubank
                            Last edited by rubank; 9 January 2002, 17:08.

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                            • #29
                              I can't comment on diskeeper seven as I don't have it. But nu is no way faster on ntfs than it is on fat32. Thats on more than four machines. I would reckon that your ntfs partition isn't as heavily fraged as fat32.
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                              • #30
                                Gurm,

                                AAH.. so should i find it if i run services.msc ( or AdmTools/services ) ? Or does it show as a process in task manager ?

                                I have disabled most of the services that i dont need ( and some that might be usefull, i like living on the edge )

                                Just want to make sure that i have that FindFast disabled, i hate those things.

                                PeTe

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