OCing like a MaggiFo

[Himself]

Not enough ram available, it would be in the 20-10 range if you are curious.

[Maggi]

Thanx, I was ...

Looks like PCI transfers, but interesting to see that your 32MB scores is not that far off.

Your V3 has 32MB onboard, doesn't it ?

In that case I would have expected a bigger drop, since the memory has to be shared for screen buffers and textures.

Thanx again,
Maggi

PS: In case you got bored, you could test 32MB again while using double buffering and see if that results in higher fps due to less frame buffer consumption.

[Himself]

16MB on a V3.

I will once I have finished downloading that file.

[Maggi]

Wow ... how could it render 32MB that fast then ???

I would have expected something like your 64MB score, since textures have to be squeezed through your PCI port.

Strange ... but good for you, I guess ...

[Indiana]

Originally posted by Maggi:
I know, I know, but I'm up to a different topic, since Greebe gave me a hint ...

Cheers,
Maggi

I'd also like to see the fillrate-score, because by looking at this number you can easily see if the score is faked or not.
I guess he must have done something like the FSB trick, because I don't think that scores much higher than 4000 are possible with the G400.

[alessandro]

You guys,
Ofcource my 4496 score is a fake one.
I just used the FSB trick

But here is a real one..NO FSB Trick in this one:



The limit of my card is 4067 3DMarks and this without any extra fan.Any memory cooling will give me greater o/c.

And Bacardi_breezer, dud my Max gives 3560 when it's not o/c!!!!!!



[This message has been edited by alessandro (edited 19 December 2000).]

[Himself]

Some misc scores, not the greatest, I'm using a compilation driver (Testing HSR using V5 drivers) so they are down a quart (100pts).

D3D Hardware T&L:

TEMPLATE
Display:
Type: Internal
Width: 1024
Height: 768
Depth: 16-Bit
Buffering: Triple
Z-Buffering: 16-Bit
Refresh Rate: VSync Off
Texture Format: 16-Bit

Options:
CPU Optimization: D3D Hardware T&L

RESULTS
Platform: Internal
3DMark Result: 3000 3D marks
CPU Speed: 222 CPU 3D marks
Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail: 61.2 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail: 43.2 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail: 19.1 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail: 58.9 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail: 42.3 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail: 25.3 FPS
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing): 163.0 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing): 319.0 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light): 2547 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (4 Lights): 2280 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights): 2015 KTriangles/s
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 138.6 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 57.2 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 6.8 FPS
64MB Texture Rendering Speed: N/A FPS

D3D Software T&L:

TEMPLATE
Display:
Type: Internal
Width: 1024
Height: 768
Depth: 16-Bit
Buffering: Triple
Z-Buffering: 16-Bit
Refresh Rate: VSync Off
Texture Format: 16-Bit

Options:
CPU Optimization: D3D Software T&L

RESULTS
Platform: Internal
3DMark Result: 2863 3D marks
CPU Speed: 196 CPU 3D marks
Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail: 59.7 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail: 40.9 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail: 18.2 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail: 58.6 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail: 38.5 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail: 22.8 FPS
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing): 163.0 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing): 319.0 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light): 3064 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (4 Lights): 2423 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights): 1887 KTriangles/s
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 138.7 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 135.7 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 86.8 FPS

TEMPLATE
Display:
Type: Internal
Width: 1024
Height: 768
Depth: 16-Bit
Buffering: Triple
Z-Buffering: 16-Bit
Refresh Rate: VSync Off
Texture Format: 16-Bit

Options:
CPU Optimization: AMD Athlon(tm)

RESULTS
Platform: Internal
3DMark Result: 2807 3D marks
CPU Speed: 175 CPU 3D marks
Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail: 59.0 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail: 39.7 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail: 15.5 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail: 57.8 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail: 39.0 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail: 22.9 FPS
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing): 162.9 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing): 319.0 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light): 2662 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (4 Lights): 2428 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights): 2075 KTriangles/s
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 138.7 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 135.8 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 108.4 FPS
64MB Texture Rendering Speed: 16.4 FPS

As you can see, the texture scores with these drivers are rather meaningless.

[Himself]

Oops, I have RC5 running as a service and I forgot to turn it off.

[Himself]

Try this again:

D3D Hardware T&L:

CPU Optimization: D3D Hardware T&L

RESULTS
Platform: Internal
3DMark Result: 3020 3D marks
CPU Speed: 226 CPU 3D marks
Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail: 61.4 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail: 43.4 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail: 19.3 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail: 58.8 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail: 42.9 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail: 25.8 FPS
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing): 163.0 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing): 319.0 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light): 2633 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (4 Lights): 2351 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights): 2074 KTriangles/s
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 138.6 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 57.7 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 7.2 FPS

Software T&L:

CPU Optimization: D3D Software T&L

RESULTS
Platform: Internal
3DMark Result: 2905 3D marks
CPU Speed: 202 CPU 3D marks
Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail: 60.1 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail: 41.3 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail: 18.6 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail: 58.8 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail: 39.8 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail: 23.6 FPS
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing): 163.0 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing): 319.0 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light): 3163 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (4 Lights): 2498 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights): 1954 KTriangles/s
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 138.7 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 135.7 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 86.7 FPS
64MB Texture Rendering Speed: 13.1 FPS

Athlon T&L:

CPU Optimization: AMD Athlon(tm)

RESULTS
Platform: Internal
3DMark Result: 2846 3D marks
CPU Speed: 181 CPU 3D marks
Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail: 59.6 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail: 40.3 FPS
Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail: 15.9 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail: 57.9 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail: 40.0 FPS
Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail: 23.5 FPS
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing): 163.0 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing): 319.0 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light): 2752 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (4 Lights): 2494 KTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights): 2136 KTriangles/s
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 138.7 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 135.8 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 111.6 FPS
64MB Texture Rendering Speed: 15.7 FPS

[Maggi]

Looks great, Alessandro !



What about you other peeps out there ?

I thought this topic would have been of bigger interest ...

[yepitsme]

Looks like i get low scores again, any opinions why ? Drivers and powerdesk similar as Maggys except Graphics bios 1.3-23.

CPU Intel Pentium III 896MHz

3D Accelerator Matrox Millennium G450 Dual Head - English

Chipset Unknown

Resolution 1024x768 16 bit

Z-Buffer Depth 16-bit

Frame Buffer Triple

Refresh Rate V Sync.Off

CPU Optimization Intel(R) Pentium(R) III





3DMark Result 2246 3D marks

CPU Speed 275 CPU 3D marks

Game 1 - Helicopter - Low Detail 42.07 FPS

Game 1 - Helicopter - Medium Detail 29.50 FPS

Game 1 - Helicopter - High Detail 12.57 FPS

Game 2 - Adventure - Low Detail 38.06 FPS

Game 2 - Adventure - Medium Detail 34.75 FPS

Game 2 - Adventure - High Detail 30.24 FPS

Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 199.96 MTexels/s

Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 201.29 MTexels/s

High Polygon Count (1 Light) 2,392 KTriangles/s

High Polygon Count (4 Lights) 2,390 KTriangles/s

High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 2,363 KTriangles/s

8MB Texture Rendering Speed 120.79 FPS

16MB Texture Rendering Speed 116.37 FPS

32MB Texture Rendering Speed 93.85 FPS

64MB Texture Rendering Speed 88.95 FPS

Bump Mapping (Emboss, 3-pass) 49.30 FPS

Bump Mapping (Emboss, 2-pass) 65.31 FPS

Bump Mapping (Emboss, 1-pass) 111.85 FPS

Bump Mapping (Environment) 57.34 FPS

Published No

P2 900 AOpen ax6bc
G450 32Mb DDR
192Mb PC-133 (112Mhz)
AGP 2/3 ( goes up to 103 MHz is set to 1/1 )

Dualhead off / if ON another 10% off from scores.

[Himself]

Looks like you forgot to overclock.

[yepitsme]

Maybe later...

Is there any way to increase multi-texture
fill rate or is it hardware question ?

Memory settings etc... ?

Thanks

[yepitsme]

Hi Maggi

atleast 3dmark says v-sync is off, how
can i make it sure ?

Thanks again

Would it be a good idea to have step-by-step
troubleshooting help here ?

And about G450 32DDR card, it is excellent
all-around card, picture quality is excellent and games ( 1024x768x16bit TOCA2, CFS2, codename47 etc. all run 45+ fps ) run smooth and look good.

Can't wait to overclock it....

[Maggi]

Originally posted by yepitsme:
...
atleast 3dmark says v-sync is off, how
can i make it sure ?
...

D'oh ! ... I missed that one completely ...

So, your VSync is off, you run the same FSB as I do (112MHz) and the only obvious differences are the BIOS revision and the type of CPU (Cel-566 vs. P3-800E ?)

Do you probably have a few apps running in the background ?
Do you have your Zbuffer set to 32bit in Powerdesk ?
Any IRQ sharing ?

L8r,
Maggi