Matrox Card this year?

[Kruzin]

Matrox no longer cares about performance or what other companies are releasing for the gaming demographics. Their focus has fully shifted to workstation/office/MMS stuff, where they have less competition. There will be no new chip until Longhorn (and even then, it will only support what Longhorn requires). Any new card till then will be based on current Sundog/Parhelia varients, none of which will be geared for performance, and none of which will be DX9 based.

I interpret 'summer' as next summer (over a year from today), when we will see a PCI-Express version of Sundog (P-LX). Certainly nothing to be overly exited about...

[Liquid Snake]

Originally posted by Haig
Don't do that, this isn't a next gen chip, it's a next product.

LOL, Haig got us all excited for nothing.

IMO, all Matrox needs to do is implement RSN. Then it won't matter if the performance is bad

[borat]

To be fair parhelia isnt really a dog, it just got eclipsed quickly by the 9700, and from all the rumours if they had a little more luck with the fabbing of the chip and ironed out a few bugs in it, then it would have been quite a bit faster and flawless in what it did. Now consider that we are 2 years down the road, manufacturing technology has improved, and a die shrink is not out of the question(like G200 to G250), and we could be looking at a non banding, FAA fixed, 0.13/0.09micron, 300- 400Mhz core, 700+Mhz memory with some kind of bandwidth saving feature. I think you can almost certainly rule out a multi core card, as its a little too brute force to come out of the matrox stable added to the fact it would cost a bomb to manufacture. As for summer - 0.09 micron would probably be accesable to matrox by then and they could begin making samples for testing. If i could get my hands on a card 1.5-2 times the speed of my parhelia with all the bugs fixed, then id be a launch day buyer. Dx9?who knows - but they already have the vertex shaders so its not impossible, and if they are redesigning for a die shrink it may not be that hard to bolt it on(i dont know, not an engineer). Just my 50 pence.

[DGhost]

but... all the performance in the world isn't going to make a difference when it doesn't support a DX9 level DDI and your games all fail. or when the latest game that requires that speed won't run on it because Matrox does not do full QA runs on games before releasing drivers...

[rylan]

I think the problem is that Matrox is lagging farther behind in technology and trying to sell to specialty markets, while the 'commodity' grade cards from ATI/nVidia are quickly catching up with features (dual dvi etc) and already far surpass matrox in performance with lower price.

[SpiralDragon]

All i want to know is if there will be a P750/Pahrelia128 PCI-Ex Varient out by jully maybe... when the alderwood chipset (I925) are out.... planing a minor upgrade for my PC and want to know if i go for the newest on the block or stick to the 875..... i am NOT planing on buying a graphix card from any one other than Matrox... and my g550 is getting too old... so if any one can 'sugets' a plan of action it would be great... personaly i would like to see a Matrox P750/Pahrelia128 PCI-Ex Varient so that i can go with the 925, Prescot and the Socket T setup

[Mikko]

Maybe Matrox should bring us triple-DVI (stretched/independent) to have some extra advantage on multi-display market.

[SpiralDragon]

and a seperate dedicated TV out

[rylan]

BTW from what I've heard/read the first PCI chipsets and boards will only support 1X slots as a pci replacement and have a single 16x slot for the graphics card. The sucky thing is, due to the horrible implementation of data packets and overhead for each command, a pci express 1x slot will be slower than a 32bit pci slot.

[Kurt]

They must have really messed up implementation if a 1 port 266MB/sec PCI-E is slower than a full 5 ports PCI bus running at 133MB/sec (going downhill and with a mega hurricane blowing in its back).

I wonder what kind of overhead we're talking about.

[dshumake]

Originally posted by Mikko
Maybe Matrox should bring us triple-DVI (stretched/independent) to have some extra advantage on multi-display market.

Unlikely under windows. Haig (I think) didn't actually say this, but implied that there is something in windows that will not allow for triple-head-independent (THI). THI is possible when using Linux. Triple DVI is of course something different and should be possible.

dshumake

[bsdgeek]

I think that it's a hardware limitation that can't be worked around in Windows but there's a hack for Linux.

[Unicron]

http://forum.matrox.com/mga/viewtopic.php?t=8910

Take a look at the last post, i think it is photoshopped it would be nice though, all i really want is a new revision parhelia with clocks of 400/900 and better bandwith 25gb+ and ill be happy.

I just wish Haig would give some information that they would bring out a card this year would be really sweet!

[PAugustin]

About a next Matrox product, I just wanted to tell that they are recruiting. I've received job offers from Matrox for some time now. Here's what I received yesterday :

Title: Sales Coordinator
Type of position: Full Time

Description: In managing the flow of product to customers, you will create product allocations, provide shipment updates, and track incoming product. You will respond to customer inquiries, and update and create spreadsheets for tracking purposes.

Qualifications: This position requires that you have a Bachelor's Degree in a related field. You have strong organizational and interpersonal skills.
You are a quick learner, proficient in Microsoft Excel and Word, and have an excellent command of written and spoken English.
Category: Sales
Division: Graphics
Location: Dorval, Quebec

Title: ASIC VALIDATION SPECIALIST - SOFTWARE DEVELOPER
Type of position: Full Time
Description: As part of the team responsible for designing the next generations of graphic accelerators, live the excitement of programming tools and software helping ASIC circuitry design. Come and help us create, in a young and dynamic work environment characterized by a propensity to learn and share, the synergy indispensable to the realization of the most daring projects! As member of an ASIC team committed to consolidating the position of Matrox as a leader in the industry of graphics acceleration, you will constantly meet new challenges and help the design team to build ASICs in the fastest way.
You could be involved in the following activities: - Performance and functional modelization ;
- Creation of analysis and visualization software; - Automatisation and development of the ASIC verification environment;
- Participating in ASIC feasibility studies;
- Assuring a validation environment and methodology that guarantees the integrity of the functionality of our graphic accelerators.

Qualifications: · Vous détenez un baccalauréat ou une maîtrise en génie électrique, génie informatique ou en science informatique, avec spécialisation en Graphiques 3D ou en vidéo numérique; ·
Vous possédez au moins 3 ans d'expérience en graphiques 3D, vidéo numérique ou un domaine connexe;
· Vous avez de l'expérience avec les éléments suivants : programmation Open GL ou Direct 3D, modélisation, animation et rendu 3D, développement d'applications graphiques ou vidéo (jeux 3D, édition vidéo); · Vous avez de l'expérience en architecture de systèmes numériques et PC (caches, microprocesseurs, mémoires, interfaces PCI/AGP), Programmation C et C++ · Vous êtes reconnu(e) pour votre esprit d'analyse et de synthèse ainsi que votre formation en mathématique. · Vous désirez travailler au sein d'une équipe dans laquelle l'initiative, l'innovation et la capacité d'adaptation aux changements sont essentielles. · Vous possédez un esprit d'équipe hors du commun, une discipline remarquable et vous souhaitez joindre une entreprise �_ l'avant-garde de la technologie. Category: Engineering-Software Design Division: Graphics Location: Dorval, Quebec

Title: ASIC ARCHITECTURE SPECIALIST
Type of position: Full Time
Description: As part of the team responsible for designing the next generations of graphic accelerators, live the excitement of ASIC Architecture. Come and help us create, in a dynamic work environment characterized by a propensity to learn and share, the synergy indispensable to the realization of the most daring projects!
As member of an ASIC team committed to consolidating the position of Matrox as a leader in the industry of graphics acceleration, you will constantly meet new challenges.
You could be involved in the following activities: - Developing architecture for 3D geometry and rendering, 2D display controllers, and on digital video processing.
- Analyzing the performance and features of both current and future products;
- Performing research supporting the development of new ideas and algorithms;
- Producing the documentation and support required by the design and validation teams for hardware and software.
Qualifications:
- You have 3+ years of experience working in a position where you have worked with 3D Graphics, digital video, or other related field.
- You have obtained a bachelor's or master's degree in Electrical Engineering, Computer Engineering, or Computer sciences with a specialization in 3D Graphics or numerical video;
- You are familiar with: Open GL or Direct 3D programming, modeling, animation and 3D rendering; - Development of Graphics or video applications (3D games, video editing);
- Architecture of numeric systems and PC (caches, microprocessing, memory, PCI/AGP interfaces), C & C++ programming;
- You are oriented towards problem-solving; - You are eager to be part of a team where initiative, innovation and adaptability are key elements;
- You have an above average ability for teamwork, you are a well-disciplined person and you wish to join a state-of-the-art technology company.

Category: Engineering-Hardware Design
Division: Graphics
Location: Dorval, Quebec

Title: ASIC HARDWARE DESIGNER
Type of position: Full Time

Description: As part of the team responsible for designing the next generations of graphic accelerators, live the excitement of designing ASIC circuitry. Come and help us create, in a dynamic work environment characterized by a propensity to learn and share, the synergy indispensable to the realization of the most daring projects!
As member of an ASIC team committed to consolidating the position of Matrox as a leader in the industry of graphics acceleration, you will constantly meet new challenges.
You could be involved in the following activities: - Participating in the design of ASIC circuitry comprised of tens of millions of logic gates;
- Specifying the functionality, testability and implementation of ASIC circuitry;
- Designing detailed data and control path diagrams, hierarchical schematics using various means, including schematic capture, truth table input, Boolean equations and high-level logic synthesis;
- Simulating the synchronization of functional blocks; - Developing your knowledge of the architecture and of the most recent industrial standards and technologies of computer memories;
- Applying technologies of modelization and VHDL simulation and using tools for testability and functional testing.

Qualifications:
- You possess 3-5 years of ASIC design experience in advanced technology nodes (below 150 nm). A background in network security, encryption/decryption, hashing functions, key exchange techniques, high-speed datapath, programmable processor design, or high-speed IO controllers is a definite advantage.
- You possess a Bachelor's or Master's degree in Electrical Engineering, Computer Engineering, Microelectronics, or similar discipline.
- You are familiar with EDA software from companies like Cadence, Mentor Graphics and Synopsys;
- You are comfortable in a UNIX environment; - You are used the VHDL, Perl, C/C++, Verilog and TCL TK languages;
- You are eager to be part of a team where initiative, innovation and adaptability are key elements;
- You are oriented towards problem-solving;
- You have an above average ability for teamwork, you are a well-disciplined person and you wish to join a state-of-the-art technology company.
Category: Engineering-Hardware Design
Division: Graphics
Location: Dorval, Quebec

[GT98]

Nothing is going to change till the get rid of the dead Wood there