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  • conanian
    mini MURCer
    • Jul 2001
    • 34

    #1

    Marvel G400-TV: How to adjust white balance?

    The white balance of my G400-TV is awful-- I can barely watch TV, let alone capture of any type.

    How can I correct it? No avail with PC-VCR or driver controls-- maybe through some 3rd party software? If so, what is it?

    I use 6.28 driver and latest VT.
    (Ignore this babble if you don't know Detective Conan.)

    I think I'd call all tri-headed cards "Hirokians", since... Hiroki Sawada definitively Tri-head!

    So we have...
    Matrox Parhelia <em>Hirokia</em> and
    Matrox Millenium P750 <em>Hirokia</em>!

    (But when can I REALLY have either of them? That's the question...)
  • Dr Mordrid
    Moderator
    • Apr 2001
    • 26592

    #2
    Are you talking on the monitor or with a TV using the vidout?

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    • conanian
      mini MURCer
      • Jul 2001
      • 34

      #3
      Originally posted by Dr Mordrid
      Are you talking on the monitor or with a TV using the vidout?

      Dr. Mordrid
      I was watching TV on the monitor, which otherwise has no problems.
      (Ignore this babble if you don't know Detective Conan.)

      I think I'd call all tri-headed cards "Hirokians", since... Hiroki Sawada definitively Tri-head!

      So we have...
      Matrox Parhelia <em>Hirokia</em> and
      Matrox Millenium P750 <em>Hirokia</em>!

      (But when can I REALLY have either of them? That's the question...)

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      • Sciascia
        MURCer
        • Dec 1999
        • 745

        #4
        Is your display set to High color 16 bit?
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        • Dr Mordrid
          Moderator
          • Apr 2001
          • 26592

          #5
          Monitors and TV's use different color systems. Monitors expect a 24 bit image withi 256 levels per color channel. Because of this colors displayed on a monitor can be fully saturated and bright.

          Video only uses about 204 levels/channel, which causes the colors to look flat by comparison to the rest of the screen.

          limit also applies to white, the intensity of which is limited to 204/204/204 RGB instead of 256. This makes it look gray.

          Dr. Mordrid
          Dr. Mordrid
          ----------------------------
          An elephant is a mouse built to government specifications.

          I carry a gun because I can't throw a rock 1,250 fps

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          • conanian
            mini MURCer
            • Jul 2001
            • 34

            #6
            Originally posted by Sciascia
            Is your display set to High color 16 bit?
            Yes. It seemed better when it was turned to 32 bit true colour.
            (Ignore this babble if you don't know Detective Conan.)

            I think I'd call all tri-headed cards "Hirokians", since... Hiroki Sawada definitively Tri-head!

            So we have...
            Matrox Parhelia <em>Hirokia</em> and
            Matrox Millenium P750 <em>Hirokia</em>!

            (But when can I REALLY have either of them? That's the question...)

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            • conanian
              mini MURCer
              • Jul 2001
              • 34

              #7
              Originally posted by Dr Mordrid
              Monitors and TV's use different color systems. Monitors expect a 24 bit image withi 256 levels per color channel. Because of this colors displayed on a monitor can be fully saturated and bright.

              Video only uses about 204 levels/channel, which causes the colors to look flat by comparison to the rest of the screen.

              limit also applies to white, the intensity of which is limited to 204/204/204 RGB instead of 256. This makes it look gray.

              Dr. Mordrid
              ... I think the problem is the output seemed too "white", as some did posted before", but I don't know the solution. I canged the color setting to 32-bit it it seemed better, but objects near a white object seemed also to be whitetened. The problem is still there...
              (Ignore this babble if you don't know Detective Conan.)

              I think I'd call all tri-headed cards "Hirokians", since... Hiroki Sawada definitively Tri-head!

              So we have...
              Matrox Parhelia <em>Hirokia</em> and
              Matrox Millenium P750 <em>Hirokia</em>!

              (But when can I REALLY have either of them? That's the question...)

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              • conanian
                mini MURCer
                • Jul 2001
                • 34

                #8
                Originally posted by conanian


                ... I think the problem is the output seemed too "white", as some did posted before", but I don't know the solution. I canged the color setting to 32-bit it it seemed better, but objects near a white object seemed also to be whitetened. The problem is still there...
                I post up a screenshot regarding this. Normally (on my TV), the boundary of the face and the background is still clear. But it seemed you can't see any now.
                Attached Files
                (Ignore this babble if you don't know Detective Conan.)

                I think I'd call all tri-headed cards "Hirokians", since... Hiroki Sawada definitively Tri-head!

                So we have...
                Matrox Parhelia <em>Hirokia</em> and
                Matrox Millenium P750 <em>Hirokia</em>!

                (But when can I REALLY have either of them? That's the question...)

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                • Dr Mordrid
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 26592

                  #9
                  Wow...on a photo I'd call that solarization.

                  Very strange.....lemme think about that one. Sometnings way off. Perhaps the saturation or some other setting is off in PC-VCR.

                  Dr. Mordrid
                  Dr. Mordrid
                  ----------------------------
                  An elephant is a mouse built to government specifications.

                  I carry a gun because I can't throw a rock 1,250 fps

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                  • conanian
                    mini MURCer
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 34

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dr Mordrid
                    Wow...on a photo I'd call that solarization.

                    Very strange.....lemme think about that one. Sometnings way off. Perhaps the saturation or some other setting is off in PC-VCR.

                    Dr. Mordrid
                    Tuning saturation do not do any bit...

                    You began to think it's not the problem of the card?
                    (Ignore this babble if you don't know Detective Conan.)

                    I think I'd call all tri-headed cards "Hirokians", since... Hiroki Sawada definitively Tri-head!

                    So we have...
                    Matrox Parhelia <em>Hirokia</em> and
                    Matrox Millenium P750 <em>Hirokia</em>!

                    (But when can I REALLY have either of them? That's the question...)

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                    • Sciascia
                      MURCer
                      • Dec 1999
                      • 745

                      #11
                      It could be that the video signal itself is too high, i.e. unterminated (75 ohms). If the IRE level is too high then it may look like this. Is the video from the built in tuner or from an input video source?
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                      • conanian
                        mini MURCer
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 34

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sciascia
                        Is the video from the built in tuner or from an input video source?
                        From the tuner.
                        (Ignore this babble if you don't know Detective Conan.)

                        I think I'd call all tri-headed cards "Hirokians", since... Hiroki Sawada definitively Tri-head!

                        So we have...
                        Matrox Parhelia <em>Hirokia</em> and
                        Matrox Millenium P750 <em>Hirokia</em>!

                        (But when can I REALLY have either of them? That's the question...)

                        Comment

                        • Dr Mordrid
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2001
                          • 26592

                          #13
                          Ok...then the next logical question is;

                          do you have a distribution amplifier in your cable/antenna lines?

                          If so it may be over driving the tuner. The fix would be an attenuator in the line. A couple of bux at Radio Shack.

                          Dr. Mordrid
                          Dr. Mordrid
                          ----------------------------
                          An elephant is a mouse built to government specifications.

                          I carry a gun because I can't throw a rock 1,250 fps

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                          • Sciascia
                            MURCer
                            • Dec 1999
                            • 745

                            #14
                            Another thing it could be is the default video system is set wrong, like instead of NTSC it's SECAM or PAL or vice versa.

                            Just throwing out ideas.
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