Xp Mp Argh????

[Topha]

Are those the same? will the xp's run on a tiger board with the same performance as the mp's?

im pretty sure the mp is only for companys who want dual chip certification, right??

btw, anything new about the g800?

[Jammrock]

According to what I've read, the Athlon XP's will be multi-processor locked. You will need an Athlon MP or a Duron MP to run multi-processor systems, unless you luck out and get one of the early batches of Athlon XP's that are unlocked. Any AMD MP CPU should work in a Tyan Tiger board, since is uses the full AMD 761 MP chipset.

As for the 'G800'...there was a rumor that we pulled from another forum that claims Matrox has pressed (in Sept/Aug) some alpha silicon of a new video card. Anyone that could confirm this rumor is under NDA and is very tight lipped about it. So all it is, is a rumor off another board.

Jammrock

[Topha]

is there a way to unlock it?

does the tyan tiger require registered ram? i think i read articles confirming it as well as articles (cant think of the opposite of confirming it in english) it.

thanks about the g800 info, although i read the crystal ball from time to time i didtn know about rumours stating that first silicons were built

[Taz]

From Tyan's website

'Four 2.5v 184-pin DDR DIMM sockets
Supports up to 3GB of Registered PC2100 DDR memory
Supports ECC (72-bit) memory modules'

HTH

[KeiFront]

Athlon MP: This is the officially supported SMP chip
It is the same chip as the XP but it will have a ceramic package, instead of the organic package the XP has.

Athlon XP: This is the desktop version of new Athlon (Palomino core). The only difference is that amd does not officially support SMP with this chip.

The reason for this is it takes long to fully test a chip to ensure its an officially support SMP chip.

[Wombat]

From what I've seen online, the XP's organic packaging makes connecting the bridges a royal PITA. The bridges are buried in the packaging. Pencil won't work, for sure.

[Taz]

Originally posted by KeiFront
...It is the same chip as the XP but it will have a ceramic package, instead of the organic package the XP has.

The new MP's, (>1.2Ghz), use the same organic packaging as the XP's, they also share the PR rating system

[Liquid Snake]

There are MPs out that are faster than 1.2GHz now?

[Taz]

Originally posted by Liquid Snake
There are MPs out that are faster than 1.2GHz now?

Yep, 1.33, 1.4 and 1.53GHz, (called 1500+, 1600+ and 1800+), not sure on availablity though

Official AMD press release here

[Topha]

so the XP is definitly locked, or is it just not certified?

[Wombat]

According to the Inquirer (yeah, yeah, I hear you) the first XP chips were MP, but after the first week or two AMD locked them. No idea how many unlocked are out there.

http://213.219.40.69/17100108.htm

Kind of sucks that AMD is taking an Intel tactic. And even Intel only did it to the budget Celeron line. It wouldn't be nearly as bad if AMD only did it to Durons.

[Topha]

if i were them (with the chip market in general and their problem with intels gigahertz strategy in specific) i would do the same, i guess, cant blame them.

sucks anyway

[Technoid]

makes sense since all amd TB cpu's I have seen in the recent month has been locked!

Before that they were never locked.

[Wombat]

Looks like a decent solution for unlocking XP multipliers is out:

http://www.overclockers.com/tips693/

No word yet on the SMP locking.