Sell my radeon 8500 and buy a Geforce4 Ti?

[woel]

Hi!

It seems like the geforce 4 could be a really great card. Seemed like the"dualhead" capabilities were on par with matrox. And if the 2d is much better than before...
So should I try to sell my ati radeon 8500, that isn't capable of showing a video in a window on the monitor and at the same time fullscreen on the tv, and buy a geforce 4 ti instead?

/Leo

[MetalCartman]

Have a look here before you buy a GeFart:

http://forums.murc.ws/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31088

You could try how it works and post your experiences...

[Gurm]

I recently bowed my head and caved in... I'm now looking at the world through a GF2mx400. And while it isn't quite as crisp (I can still take it back for a GF2ti or a GF3ti/200) all the WinXP functions are hardware accelerated, I never ever get a bluescreen, and Wolfenstein looks a hell of a lot better (can you say "unsupported features" - I mean, there are literally colors and effects in here that the Kyro2 just DOESN'T DO).

Has anyone had any experience with the capacitor clipping technique to get slightly crisper output out of this bad boy? Can you give me a definitive "yeah go for it" or "don't do that, you'll farg the board"?

- Gurm

[Novdid]

Gurm of all the people...

[rubank]

Gurm,

instead of clipping you can use a tiny soldering iron to heat one end of the cap´s and bend them up to the point where they make no contact. Then it´s easy to resolder them, if need be.

rubank

[mdhome]

Seems like the Ti4200 will be a good buy when it comes out. Hopefully I will be able to get it for less than £200.

Regards MD

[Gurm]

Rubank - thanks, man. Good call.

Now, where did that link that showed which caps it was go to...

- Gurm

[rubank]

Gurm,

Have a look here

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1577&p=5

rubank

[Greebe]

rubank, if you heat up an smd component like these only on one end and bend up you'll effectively disconnect the component from the circuit, but also rip the other pad off the pcb. It would be better to completely remove (desolder) the part.

Jason, the cap makes up a low pass filter network. By taking the cap out of circuit not only improves the high frequency responce, but would also reduce the phase shift induced into the signal.

[woel]

just read that the geforce 4 ti -series doesn't have a built in tv-encoder only the mx-serie has that...
So maybe they aren't as good as it first seemed...

[rubank]

Greebe,

in my humble experience enough heat will pass through the smd to soften the solder on the other side so it will not tear away from the pcb.

It has worked for me.

rubank

[Greebe]

and in my experience to tell somebody whom doesn't have the experience to do that is irresponcible.

[borat]

gurm have you lost your glasses or somethin. bout a month or 2 ago u were telling us how poor the geefarts were now u're using one

are there any loyal matrox users left????????

[Greebe]

are there any loyal matrox users left????????

Yes there are thousands... but without a gaming solution (or rather a card that'll do 3D like the competition) we're left with going over to the darkside.

[rubank]

Originally posted by Greebe
and in my experience to tell somebody whom doesn't have the experience to do that is irresponcible.

So, do you think Anands suggestion of clipping the cap´s with pliers - thereby irrevocably destroying them - is more responsible?

rubank