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  • SteveC
    Super MURCer
    • Aug 1999
    • 3540

    #1

    What is the point?!!



    Onboard Audio...... from 1970!
  • The PIT
    Super MURCer
    • Aug 1999
    • 11901

    #2
    Well guys with a window in the side of the case will have something else to look at.
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    • Gurm
      MS Fanboy
      • Aug 1999
      • 11460

      #3
      Well, much as tubes DO have a nice sound, a single tube that is small enough to NOT melt the motherboard... has no purpose inside a PC. Just for show, folks.

      - Gurm
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      • Technoid
        Super MURCer
        • Sep 1999
        • 7645

        #4
        This has already been debated quite thorugly....
        If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

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        • Gurm
          MS Fanboy
          • Aug 1999
          • 11460

          #5
          Yep.

          Just racking up the posts. I have a reputation to maintain, posting on every topic with which I have at least a passing familiarity.

          - Gurm
          The Internet - where men are men, women are men, and teenage girls are FBI agents!

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          If only life were as easy as you
          I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
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          • rubank
            MURCer
            • Aug 1999
            • 690

            #6
            Don´t worry Gurm,

            you´re reputation precedes you.



            rubank

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            • impact
              Super MURCer
              • Dec 1999
              • 1100

              #7


              Id hit it. *thumbs up*
              Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject.

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              • az
                Moderator
                • Feb 2001
                • 9336

                #8
                This soooo sucks.

                AZ
                There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                • Elie
                  MURC Writer
                  • Aug 1999
                  • 4420

                  #9
                  I don't know about you guys, but Tube amps back in the old days sounded so much nicer than todays junk.

                  Tube sound provide a warm clean sound that not everybody likes but those that appreciate it, will buy this motherboard.

                  The only problem I see is that the tube itself is like a fuse, it will burn out eventually and will require replacing, so you can image the maintanence

                  If you know the Macintosh brand amplifiers that are worth thousands of dollars still use Tubes today.


                  Regards,
                  Elie

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                  • xortam
                    Super MURCer
                    • Sep 1999
                    • 4534

                    #10
                    I don't think anyone disputed the benefits of tube amps Elie. The disdain is for this particular application.
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                    • Gurm
                      MS Fanboy
                      • Aug 1999
                      • 11460

                      #11
                      Elie,

                      The problem is that... this tube is for show.

                      You need one per channel (at least), right? So you're already short one... unless the board has onboard 5.1, in which case you're short 5. Add to that the fact that to produce even a few watts the fuse would get so hot that it would MELT the board.

                      - Gurm
                      The Internet - where men are men, women are men, and teenage girls are FBI agents!

                      I'm the least you could do
                      If only life were as easy as you
                      I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
                      If only life were as easy as you
                      I would still get screwed

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                      • Elie
                        MURC Writer
                        • Aug 1999
                        • 4420

                        #12
                        Gurm, you bring up a good point, because temperature will be an issue, unless it's a new type of design that doesn't require alot of current or wattage so heat may not be an problem?

                        Don't know about the needing two tubes for stereo, I'll look into that.

                        Regards,
                        Elie

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                        • Technoid
                          Super MURCer
                          • Sep 1999
                          • 7645

                          #13
                          It's still just a gimick
                          If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

                          Jeremy Clarkson "806 brake horsepower..and that on that limp wrist faerie liquid the Americans call petrol, if you run it on the more explosive jungle juice we have in Europe you'd be getting 850 brake horsepower..."

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                          • xortam
                            Super MURCer
                            • Sep 1999
                            • 4534

                            #14
                            I can dig up a good AVS thread on this topic if you're really interested in rehasing this again.
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                            • rubank
                              MURCer
                              • Aug 1999
                              • 690

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Elie
                              ...Tube sound provide a warm clean sound...
                              Regards,
                              Elie
                              Warm, yes.
                              Clean, no.
                              The reason many tube amps have a "nice and warm" sound is that they produce a lot of harmonic distorsion and have lousy transient response. It´s like old Ektachrome slides - they have so rich and warm colours, better than life.

                              Many tube amps do sound really nice, but there´s no such thing as a rule to that effect. And "nice" might not be the objective with sound reproduction.

                              You could design a transistor amp to sound like a tube amp, but to what point? There´s a meaning to the phrase "high fidelity" and tube amps come in short in that respect.

                              rubank

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