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  • RC Agent
    MURCer
    • Oct 2001
    • 422

    #1

    Looking for a video card upgrade recommendation

    The old G200 just needs to be upgraded. Basically will be using the PC for surfing and gaming (HL TFC mostly, BG II, NWN, JKII, WCIII). I'd prefer to get something under $170. ATI 8500? GF4 Ti 4200? GF4 Ti 4400? I'm leang towards the 8500 BTW.
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  • Guru
    Super MURCer
    • Nov 1999
    • 6018

    #2
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    According to the latest official figures, 43% of all statistics are totally worthless...

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    • Indiana
      Super MURCer
      • Mar 2000
      • 2410

      #3
      The Radeon9000Pro is despite of it's name (f*ck those marketing b*ttheads ) the successor of the Radeon7500 and still slower than the Radeon8500LE.

      A cheap Gigabyte R8500 card (they run at the full 275/275MHz) would be quite a bit faster than the R9000"Pro". The only advantage I can see for the 9000Pro is the "Fullstream" technology.

      The GF4 Ti4200 will be the fastest of those three cards and will maybe even have the best price/performance ratio - as long as you don't want to use anisotropic. With full anisotropic enabled, the R8500 just can't be beat.
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      • Gurm
        MS Fanboy
        • Aug 1999
        • 11460

        #4
        9700 > 8500 > 9000 > 7500

        How's that for ya?

        8500 is nice right now. $80 online for a 64mb card that's nearly as fast as a GF4. Nice.

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        • Gurm
          MS Fanboy
          • Aug 1999
          • 11460

          #5
          But, my recommendation would be TOTALLY dependent on your chipset. Whatcha got?

          - Gurm
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          • RC Agent
            MURCer
            • Oct 2001
            • 422

            #6
            Via KT133A
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            • Guru
              Super MURCer
              • Nov 1999
              • 6018

              #7
              Then I would recomend a new mobo instead!
              According to the latest official figures, 43% of all statistics are totally worthless...

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              • Gurm
                MS Fanboy
                • Aug 1999
                • 11460

                #8
                Your $150 solution? Radeon 8500 for $80 and an MSI 745 Ultra motherboard for $60. $140 and you're a happy camper.

                (I'm assuming your chip is socketed, if it's slotted then... well, you're SOL.)

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                • Wombat
                  Super MURCer
                  • Aug 2000
                  • 9498

                  #9
                  I'm not aware of any KT133A Slot A boards. It would be nice to know if such a beast exists.
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                  • RC Agent
                    MURCer
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 422

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Gurm
                    Your $150 solution? Radeon 8500 for $80 and an MSI 745 Ultra motherboard for $60. $140 and you're a happy camper.

                    (I'm assuming your chip is socketed, if it's slotted then... well, you're SOL.)

                    - Gurm
                    PLUS $$ for new memory too.
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                    • Wombat
                      Super MURCer
                      • Aug 2000
                      • 9498

                      #11
                      Then you could still get the ECS 735-based board. No real OCing, but it would have both kinds of RAM slots.
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                      • Gurm
                        MS Fanboy
                        • Aug 1999
                        • 11460

                        #12
                        Yup. And it's even cheaper.

                        Although... it's only about $80 for new memory.

                        So it'd put you $50 over budget. But think of the speed boosts!

                        Oh, alright. Let's stick to your original budget.

                        Get an MSI 735 board. Bam, you're done.

                        - Gurm
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                        I'm the least you could do
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                        I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
                        If only life were as easy as you
                        I would still get screwed

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                        • ZokesPro
                          Serial Murcerer
                          • Sep 2000
                          • 8325

                          #13
                          I recommend a nice PCI Cirrus Logic 5115 1mb video card! It doesn't do OpenGL, Direct3D or 1024x768 @16bit colors!

                          It's everything you want and at the right price! Only one left in stock! Get it while it lasts, only 4 Yen!
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                          • Technoid
                            Super MURCer
                            • Sep 1999
                            • 7645

                            #14
                            How big speed bost are we talking about?

                            Going from a KT133A mobo to SIS745?

                            (Same CPU and same amount of mem)
                            If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

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                            • Wombat
                              Super MURCer
                              • Aug 2000
                              • 9498

                              #15
                              So I've heard estimates of 10-20% for going from SDR to DDR.

                              Then there's the extra PCI bandwidth.

                              And the removal of VIA headaches: priceless.
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