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  • PowerHungry
    MURCer
    • Jan 2001
    • 214

    #16
    I'll have to give it a try tomorrow... Noise doesn't bother me much, will a decent 92mm fan @ 12v be about as good? And how about hooking the fans up in series? ( inside case -> radiator -> 8cm fan -> 9.2 cm fan)?
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    • Greebe
      Super MURCer
      • Aug 1999
      • 8555

      #17
      a 120mm with an adapter (shroud) would be best... I'm trying to help you keep the noise level low while still providing much improved airflow

      placing a fan on the front and backside of the radiator won't improve it's effeciency worth a hoot
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      • PowerHungry
        MURCer
        • Jan 2001
        • 214

        #18
        Hmmm.... I just had a thought while waiting for the 120 MM fan to arrive. Could poor thermal contact cause slightly elevated CPU temps? I'm using some Arctic Silver III, and I believe I used a proper amount. Perhaps to little? Otherwise I'll just install the fan and forgeddaboudit.
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        • Greebe
          Super MURCer
          • Aug 1999
          • 8555

          #19
          Could be but I rather doubt it. Those temps sounds about right for your current low CFM fan setup.
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          • PowerHungry
            MURCer
            • Jan 2001
            • 214

            #20
            Well, crud. A new 120 CFM fan and the temps are the same, or slightly more. Not having a good night, my new cold cathode lamp went pop pop fizz fizz. Just wanna thank you for your help Greebe. Anyone else have any ideas as to why my chip is running a bit warmer than it should?

            Case:78
            CPU:105

            CPU is overclocked to 1.916 @1.675v
            Stock it runs at 101.
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            • Greebe
              Super MURCer
              • Aug 1999
              • 8555

              #21
              Is that 105 peak or idle? Above you stated 115 peak... just wondering
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              • PowerHungry
                MURCer
                • Jan 2001
                • 214

                #22
                It is 115 peak, and 105 idle.
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                • Greebe
                  Super MURCer
                  • Aug 1999
                  • 8555

                  #23
                  Is the fan sucking the air from the interior of the case through the radiator and out or blowing into the case through the radiator to the interior?
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                  • Greebe
                    Super MURCer
                    • Aug 1999
                    • 8555

                    #24
                    Reason I ask this as with my own setup I'm drawning air up from underneath (where the air is the coolest) through the radiator with the fans blowing upward into the case as so not to use preheated interior air from the case itself to improve cooling effeciency

                    This can be done on the right side panel also or the top but is much harder todo if on top effectively
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                    • PowerHungry
                      MURCer
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 214

                      #25
                      Its sucking air from the inside of the case and blowing it over the radiator and out the back. Temps aren't a problem, as the top and bottom of my case are fairly segregated from the cabling and case design, plus there is now a big vent in front where the large fan is getting its air.
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                      • Greebe
                        Super MURCer
                        • Aug 1999
                        • 8555

                        #26
                        1. You should never draw air from the case interior... this skews all the readings and adversly affects cooling effeciency.

                        2. with any radiator the air should be sucked through it than blown through
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                        • PowerHungry
                          MURCer
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 214

                          #27
                          1. I'm aware of this, and it is relatively moot in my case because the top (H2O) and the bottom (rest of the system) are separated, and a large vent is sucking cool air in at the front.

                          2. Out of curiosity, why? (will change, and should be easier for mounting my radiator anyway)
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                          • Greebe
                            Super MURCer
                            • Aug 1999
                            • 8555

                            #28
                            Laminar airflow over the fins is more effective than just blasting air at it

                            The only reason this is variable (one way or the other) in normal HS's is do to the hub area of the fan which prevents the center section of the HS to get hotter, problem is that BIG high speed fans normally cannot be mounted properly and or the HS design itself defeats the benefit of doing so.
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                            • PowerHungry
                              MURCer
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 214

                              #29
                              Well, I placed the fan on the outside of the case (blowing out), so that air is pulled over the radiator, and the temp dropped to 104 idle. Since the water doesnt feel much above room temp, I am starting to wonder whether it is my waterblock.
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                              • Greebe
                                Super MURCer
                                • Aug 1999
                                • 8555

                                #30
                                Buying a inexpensive indoor/outdoor digital thermometer (Mine cost ~$15 USD) is a must to find things like this out. Measure the intake and exhaust water temp at the waterblock todo and you will have your Q answered.
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