Fanless P4 ?

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  • dZeus
    Moderator
    • Aug 2000
    • 4622

    #16
    the future client was the one I meant

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    • az
      Moderator
      • Feb 2001
      • 9336

      #17
      Thought so

      It's too expensive and too unflexible for me. When I own my own business though, this thing will sure be sitting on my glass desk

      AZ
      There's an Opera in my macbook.

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      • thop
        Super MURCer
        • Mar 2001
        • 2536

        #18
        the future client is nice, i bet it is very espensive though. i'm about to build sth. like that myself for my linux server (see sig). just with no cdrom slot, only power button, one led and MAYBE LCD, but rather not. i already found a company that makes custom front/back panels from brushed aluminium (in all colors) for just a few euro (~10€).

        the setup will be completely fanless, the VIA C3 doesn't even get handwarm with a small passive heatsink. once the 100GB+ barracudas come out i will replace both 80GB disks with one of them (i dont really need that RAID anymore). at the moment the whole thing is in a shoebox

        in the end it will look similar to this:

        [img]http://www.huno.net/whatthe****/a.jpg[/img]

        or this (terratec mp3o):

        Last edited by thop; 3 October 2002, 16:47.
        no matrox, no matroxusers.

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        • az
          Moderator
          • Feb 2001
          • 9336

          #19
          Totally fanless? No PSU fan?

          How do you want to keep the HDD from overheating, and do you think you can cool the C3 passively without ANY airflow, and with relatively high temps in the case?

          The FutureClient with a C3 costs 1400 EUR

          AZ
          There's an Opera in my macbook.

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          • thop
            Super MURCer
            • Mar 2001
            • 2536

            #20
            yes on all 3 questions
            the C3 uses less than 8W and could even run without a heatsink for hours, maybe days. the passive HS that came with it looks like an old 486 heatsink and it really just gets handwarm. the PSU is a mATX 110W from Samsung, those Barracudas stay quite cold, but i will put a big passive HS the size of the HD on it (available for some € at conrad ).
            at the moment the shoebox is open (and in another room), because of those 2 IBM 80GB disks.
            if there will be a heat problem i put a 80mm fan at 5V at the back, but i dont think it will be necessary. there will be small ventilation openings in the back though.
            no matrox, no matroxusers.

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            • az
              Moderator
              • Feb 2001
              • 9336

              #21


              Keep me updated!

              AZ
              There's an Opera in my macbook.

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              • Wombat
                Super MURCer
                • Aug 2000
                • 9498

                #22
                I saw the 800MHz C3 quoted at 6.7W.
                Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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                • K6-III
                  Super MURCer
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 2253

                  #23
                  Has anyone tried overclocking the C3???
                  Let us return to the moon, to stay!!!

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                  • UtwigMU
                    Super MURCer
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 5651

                    #24
                    Fanless P4 is possible. I saw people bragging about running 1.X GHz Willamette without heatsink.

                    The only problem would be degraded performance due to throttling.

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                    • az
                      Moderator
                      • Feb 2001
                      • 9336

                      #25
                      The 2.53 GHz from Deltatronic won't throttle. OK, it will, if you keep CPU utilisation at 100% for a few hours. But that shouldn't happen in everyday use - besides, it will only throttle for a short time, cool down, and then clock up again.

                      AZ
                      There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                      • luni
                        MURCer
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 110

                        #26
                        mutz: damn, where did you get large version of my highschool pic


                        back on topic, you could also get one of these :



                        Its a heatpipe heatsink used by Shuttle in their backbone mini-systems. It has one quiet fan (GASP!), but you could second that as a case-fan, so it still classifies as fanless imho

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                        • az
                          Moderator
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 9336

                          #27
                          No-no, a case fan is a fan! That's absolutely not fanless!

                          It might be very quiet, but I think there's a world of difference between very quiet and emitting no noise at all (which computers can't achieve, lest you get yourself a HUGE ramdisk and mirror your HD on it, then shut it down - which is just not cost sensitive ).

                          But thanks for the link anyway
                          There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                          • Wombat
                            Super MURCer
                            • Aug 2000
                            • 9498

                            #28


                            It's about $1500 for 1GB, $10000 for 8GB. But it qualifies.
                            Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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                            • luni
                              MURCer
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 110

                              #29
                              Err well if you want a completely fanless system dont dream about P4 and 100GB 7200 RPM disks then. Lets remain realistic

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                              • Wombat
                                Super MURCer
                                • Aug 2000
                                • 9498

                                #30
                                P4 is completely doable, and my 80GB Maxtors are not too warm. I've seen fanless PSUs up to 220W.
                                Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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