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  • SteveC
    Super MURCer
    • Aug 1999
    • 3540

    #1

    Sony Minidisc deck help

    Hi all

    Just bought a Sony Minidisc deck from my local curries for £19.95. Cheap you might think - but it's a deck designed to connect into one of their Micro Hifi's. (It's model number is MDS-SP55)

    On the back is just a 19pin connector (and flat cable supplied) which plugs into the tuner of the hifi plus 3 optical connectors (2 in, 1 out).

    Now, all I want is to power it up as there are enough controls on the unit itself to use it stand alone. So:

    Anyone know the pinout of this 19pin cable? (Or anyone fancy putting a multimeter to the back of their sony micro hifi if they have one?)

    Not afraid to open it up and play - only cost £20 after all!
  • SteveC
    Super MURCer
    • Aug 1999
    • 3540

    #2
    Opened it up and the port's labelled - now to work out what they mean:

    01: TC-R
    02: MD-R
    03: AGND
    04: MD-L
    05: TC-L
    06: REC-L
    07: AGND
    08: REC-R
    09: GND
    10: PCPON
    11: PDOWN
    12: IIC-CLK
    13; DGND
    14: IICDATA
    15: D +5.6V
    16: -UNREG (L)
    17: +UNREG (L)
    18: MGND
    19: +UNREG (H)

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    • Maggi
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      • Jan 2000
      • 5057

      #3
      already tried this site ?
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      • Maggi
        Super MURCer
        • Jan 2000
        • 5057

        #4
        based on my completely uneducated thoughts, I would try to shorten pin10 to ground for powering on and pin11 to ground for powering down, but what do I know ?

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        • SteveC
          Super MURCer
          • Aug 1999
          • 3540

          #5
          More info (no equipment here to test, so relying on eyesight):

          01: TC-R - N/C
          02: MD-R - (small chip) pin ??
          03: AGND - Chassis Ground
          04: MD-L - (small chip) pin 26 (VOUTL)
          05: TC-L - N/C
          06: REC-L - (small chip) pin 2 (VINL)
          07: AGND - Ground
          08: REC-R - (small chip) pin 4 (VINR)
          09: GND - Ground
          10: PCPON - (big chip) ?
          11: PDOWN - ?
          12: IIC-CLK - ?
          13; DGND - Ground
          14: IICDATA - ?
          15: D +5.6V - N/C
          16: -UNREG (L) - N/C
          17: +UNREG (L) - Power Regs
          18: MGND - Power Regs
          19: +UNREG (H) - N/C

          (small chip) = UDA1341TS; Economy audio CODEC for MiniDisc (MD) home stereo and portable applications


          Makes sense for inputs on pins 2 & 4 - they're left and right inputs which go straight to ADCs
          Pins 24 and 26 are probably VOUTR and VOUTL - the outputs (ie to the AMP/tape deck) from the MD inputs -> ADCs -> DSP -> DACs
          Last edited by SteveC; 11 October 2002, 08:42.

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          • SteveC
            Super MURCer
            • Aug 1999
            • 3540

            #6
            So I guess that Maggi could well be right, plus the inputs are pretty much sorted as well as the Power lines. Just hope it works without the data lines being used (hopefully that's just for the I2C bus to the main display and control lines elsewhere on the hifi)

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            • SteveC
              Super MURCer
              • Aug 1999
              • 3540

              #7
              Voltage regs are a 2933 (3.3v) and 7805 (5.0v). The datasheet for the 7805 says that the input has to be typically 2.0v above output, so I'll stick in 7.5v or so and see what happens later

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              • Ribbit
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                • Apr 2001
                • 1174

                #8
                I am posting here solely to provide a change of avatar. Please ignore me.
                Blah blah blah nick blah blah confusion, blah blah blah blah frog.

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                • SteveC
                  Super MURCer
                  • Aug 1999
                  • 3540

                  #9
                  Works great!

                  (Pin 9 is also N/C I didn't realise)

                  Simply connected a ~8v supply (unregulated) to pins 17 and 11, and ground to all the grounds and it worked powered up. The PDOWN (pin 11) taken high turns it on.

                  Was able to playback/record/erase minidiscs fine - just a nightmare to navigate round the menus when I haven't got the screen on the rest of the hifi to see what I'm doing!

                  I believe it uses I2C to talk to the rest of the hifi, and isn't that a pretty standard data protocol/format? Might be able to make my own display through my PC or something - but it does work stand alone for now.

                  Only tried the optical in/out so far - will do analogue soon though. But overall, well worth the £20 and a little investigative work.

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                  • ZokesPro
                    Serial Murcerer
                    • Sep 2000
                    • 8325

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SteveC
                    Works great!

                    (Pin 9 is also N/C I didn't realise)

                    Simply connected a ~8v supply (unregulated) to pins 17 and 11, and ground to all the grounds and it worked powered up. The PDOWN (pin 11) taken high turns it on.

                    Was able to playback/record/erase minidiscs fine - just a nightmare to navigate round the menus when I haven't got the screen on the rest of the hifi to see what I'm doing!

                    I believe it uses I2C to talk to the rest of the hifi, and isn't that a pretty standard data protocol/format? Might be able to make my own display through my PC or something - but it does work stand alone for now.

                    Only tried the optical in/out so far - will do analogue soon though. But overall, well worth the £20 and a little investigative work.
                    Glad to be of help!
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                    (you heard from me first!)

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                    • WyWyWyWy
                      Super MURCer
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 1087

                      #11
                      Now the question is where did you get it for twenty quid!?
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                      • SteveC
                        Super MURCer
                        • Aug 1999
                        • 3540

                        #12
                        Originally posted by WyWyWyWy
                        Now the question is where did you get it for twenty quid!?
                        My local Currys. Dunno if Dixons have them too.

                        Drilled a few holes and fitted some phono plugs (line in and out) and a power socket on it now too

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                        • Colin Morey
                          MURCer
                          • Sep 1999
                          • 190

                          #13
                          coolies, must get me one of them, wonder how hard it would be to get one working..

                          I only need it for playing,.. I've got an MZ-N1 for recording/editing purpoises

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                          • SteveC
                            Super MURCer
                            • Aug 1999
                            • 3540

                            #14
                            easy - most of what you need is in my posts above, but if you need any more help, drop me a mail.

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                            • Colin Morey
                              MURCer
                              • Sep 1999
                              • 190

                              #15
                              and £20 from currys, hmm, parhelia from scan's today only or a mini-disk for the hi-fi... is this a special offer, or are they likely to have them at the end of the month?
                              You wanna piece of me? here, *crunch*, o.k. not _that_ bit.

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