Can anyone recommend an app that FULLY zeros your drive?

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  • The Sewer Rat
    mini MURCer
    • Dec 1999
    • 31

    #1

    Can anyone recommend an app that FULLY zeros your drive?

    My new 60gb seagate barracuda will not give up its MBR when you try to do a format – this causes problems when you try to install an os…the old boot.ini reappears to halt your install dead.

    Also, does anyone know of a good app to read MBRs and put things right? Thanks.
    If you have a DVD of 'Wall Street' then message me.
  • MetalCartman
    MURCer
    • May 2001
    • 229

    #2
    With fdisk under pure DOS you can rewrite the master boot record:

    fdisk /mbr
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    • Wombat
      Super MURCer
      • Aug 2000
      • 9498

      #3
      Yep. Formatting alone doesn't change the MBR.
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      • K6-III
        Super MURCer
        • Dec 2000
        • 2253

        #4
        Seagate also has a util on their site that lets you do that.....
        Let us return to the moon, to stay!!!

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        • thop
          Super MURCer
          • Mar 2001
          • 2536

          #5
          strong magnet will work wonders.
          no matrox, no matroxusers.

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          • Chrono_Wanderer
            Super MURCer
            • Mar 2002
            • 2540

            #6
            wouldn't magnets kill the HDD?

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            • Gear
              mini MURCer
              • Mar 2002
              • 63

              #7
              If you have a Linux boot-able CD at hand, boot it, get into a shell,and at the prompt write:
              dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda

              If you don't want to zero-out everything, add to the command: bs (blocksize)=1024k (1MB) count=100 (or how many times you want), for ex:
              dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1024k count=1000

              Hope this helps,
              Last edited by Gear; 7 December 2002, 15:04.
              Loose bits sink chips.

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              • ayoub_ibrahim
                Super MURCer
                • Dec 1999
                • 2445

                #8
                this will zero your hdd!

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                • alewisa
                  mini MURCer
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 17

                  #9
                  DOS 3.21 - part.com and prep.com will kill everything. Might need the Zentih supplied DOS3.21 though. Works wonders, even preps disks that FDISK will not touch.

                  Norton's used to do it (7 times overwriting to every sector). If you have access to an Amiga, stick it in there.

                  OTOH, in the dark old days (ie 10 years ago), a mate used to run the biggest warez BBS in the UK. All the drives were externally housed, and wrapped with several dozen lengths of electical flex, plugged into the mains. The idea (tested once to prove concept) was that if FAST ever came a-knockin', he'd flick the mains switch on, and instant bulk HD erasure ensured. ;-) I often think about the same solution viz-a-viz my ex-wife... :---)

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                  • Dogbert

                    #10
                    BeOS 5 install cd has a HDD setup utility. It saved a few HDDs that FDISK wouldn't recognise.

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                    • VJ
                      Moderator
                      • Mar 2001
                      • 9733

                      #11
                      I have 2 small dos-pograms:
                      zap just zerofills the mbr
                      wipe zefofills the entire hdd
                      (perhaps a search on google will help you find these tools; if not, I can post them tomorrow)


                      Jörg
                      pixar
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                      • VJ
                        Moderator
                        • Mar 2001
                        • 9733

                        #12
                        Here are they :
                        http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/support/download.htm (scroll down)


                        Jörg
                        pixar
                        Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tomorrow. (James Dean)

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                        • The Sewer Rat
                          mini MURCer
                          • Dec 1999
                          • 31

                          #13
                          thanks a lot - i'll try them out when i next format my comp (prob quite soon, since im getting fed up of xp.)
                          If you have a DVD of 'Wall Street' then message me.

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                          • Evildead666
                            Super MURCer
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 3116

                            #14
                            Seagate supplies a small utility diskette to boot from on their website.

                            It would be wise to try to use that before anything else.

                            edit :
                            Last edited by Evildead666; 9 December 2002, 12:02.
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                            • The Sewer Rat
                              mini MURCer
                              • Dec 1999
                              • 31

                              #15
                              [QUOTE]Originally posted by Evildead666
                              [B]Seagate supplies a small utility diskette to boot from on their website.[QUOTE]

                              that is precisely the utility that, when used to format, leaves your MBR mysteriously undeleted.

                              discwizard was only useful for the dynamic drive thing (and even that is available everywhere else.)
                              If you have a DVD of 'Wall Street' then message me.

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