Nvidia is up to their old tricks

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  • Technoid
    Super MURCer
    • Sep 1999
    • 7645

    #31
    It would be yanked faster than Quick and everyone that posted to it would be banned
    If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

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    • DedicatedFan3D
      mini MURCer
      • Jul 2002
      • 76

      #32
      I wonder what liabilities there would be involved in a post like that too.

      Considering that it devalues futuremark as a company severely for people to be intelligent.
      I am the 1 and the 0, the bit and the byte.
      No computer is unbendable to my will, as hacking is not so much skill as psychology. Much like the lawmaker and the money that drives him to do as anyone would wish with it.

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      • TdB
        Super MURCer
        • Jan 2001
        • 1238

        #33
        We create the world's most widely used benchmarks and performance tests including 3DMark, PCMark, Servermark, and VRMark. Get started now with our free downloads.



        interesting...
        This sig is a shameless atempt to make my post look bigger.

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        • Pace
          Super MURCer
          • Feb 2000
          • 3414

          #34
          A lot of effort into making an almost completely pointless benchmark tool, a lot of effort into cheating at it, and a lot of effort into debating it after we have done a lot of effort downloading it and running it.

          So, why do we not just stop using it? It might mean that driver teams might actually do real optimisation to their drivers...
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          • Guru
            Super MURCer
            • Nov 1999
            • 6018

            #35
            We have now established that NVIDIA’s Detonator FX drivers contain certain detection mechanisms that cause an artificially high score when using 3DMark 2003. We have just published a patch 330 for 3DMark03 that defeats the detection mechanisms in the drivers & provides correct results.

            Download the 3DMark03 Patch 330 here:
            We create the world's most widely used benchmarks and performance tests including 3DMark, PCMark, Servermark, and VRMark. Get started now with our free downloads.

            A detailed audit report of the drivers & 3DMark03 is available at:
            We create the world's most widely used benchmarks and performance tests including 3DMark, PCMark, Servermark, and VRMark. Get started now with our free downloads.


            I'd highly recommend everyone read Futuremark's report, which details the Driver cheats NVIDIA implemented. I'd be interested to hear what NVIDIA now it's been proven these are far from Driver "bugs". Course, the main problem is there's absolutely no punishment for NVIDIA for misrepresenting their Graphics Cards performance with those Drivers.
            According to the latest official figures, 43% of all statistics are totally worthless...

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            • TdB
              Super MURCer
              • Jan 2001
              • 1238

              #36
              So how do you guys think this will affect matrox?

              they seem to be one of the few companies, with a clean record regarding benchmark cheating, as it is now. (the only other "wellbehaved" company I can think of is Powervr).

              If matrox came out with a great performer, I think most people would believe the performance numbers to be legit. none of the big companies have that luxury.

              could matrox win costumers because of this cheating?
              Last edited by TdB; 23 May 2003, 16:27.
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              • Nowhere
                Super MURCer
                • Jun 2002
                • 4830

                #37
                first: I don't really think that matrox will come out with great performer in near future.
                second: I think you're overestimating the impact of this all on future image of nvidia...not many care abut this whole thing imho

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                • TdB
                  Super MURCer
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 1238

                  #38
                  you are probably right, I was just thinking out loud....
                  This sig is a shameless atempt to make my post look bigger.

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