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  • Fat Tone
    Super MURCer
    • Aug 1999
    • 7579

    #1

    legal suit threatens Linux :(

    FT.
  • Jammrock
    The Berserker
    • Aug 1999
    • 8661

    #2
    It won't hold in court. Even if it does, SCO will piss off so many IT manager and admins they'll shot themselves in the foot.

    Jammrock
    “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
    –The Light Fantastic, Terry Pratchett

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    • Topha
      Super MURCer
      • Jan 2001
      • 1235

      #3
      There are so many reasons this wont work, it is just embarassing. especially when you consider that microsoft probably is involved in that.

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      • az
        Moderator
        • Feb 2001
        • 9336

        #4
        IBM isn't scared, and I guess they would be if this was valid.

        AZ
        There's an Opera in my macbook.

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        • Dr Mordrid
          Moderator
          • Apr 2001
          • 26592

          #5
          The problem is that SCO has been involved with the development of Linux under the GPL.

          As RAMBUS found out you can't have it both ways and still be credible in either court or the public arena.

          Dr. Mordrid
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          • isochar
            Super MURCer
            • Nov 1999
            • 1113

            #6
            With backing from Microsoft, I'm sure SCO will be able to cause some damage.

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            • The PIT
              Super MURCer
              • Aug 1999
              • 11901

              #7
              Heard some rumours that parts of Unix were ported directly into Lunix.
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              • Technoid
                Super MURCer
                • Sep 1999
                • 7645

                #8
                hehe, it is like if a wolf would have acused a tasmanian wolf of "stealing" part of his DNA code


                Originally posted by The PIT
                Heard some rumours that parts of Unix were ported directly into Lunix.
                the keyword here is rumours

                Besides:
                Apple tried basicly the same thing against MS a while ago
                If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

                Jeremy Clarkson "806 brake horsepower..and that on that limp wrist faerie liquid the Americans call petrol, if you run it on the more explosive jungle juice we have in Europe you'd be getting 850 brake horsepower..."

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                • treilanin
                  mini MURCer
                  • Dec 1999
                  • 49

                  #9
                  I think at the core of the lawsuit, SCO is claiming that IBM took code from AIX and SCO's Monteroy(Itanium port) project for inclusion into Linux. And based on SCO finding code that was similar that it was obvious that code was copied. There are a few very interesting things about such an insinuation...

                  1) Unix System V internals are well documented in University OS books. In fact a majority of courses used to teach the courses using Unix based source code.

                  2) The belief that it is impossible that Linux could have improved so fast is pretty ludicrous. There are a number of hardware vendors that do their proof of concept on Linux because the source is both openly available and can be modified. The Itanium port was spearheaded by HP and Intel developers and not IBM ones.

                  3) The fact that SCO aka Caldera has it's own Linux distribution where it contributed code on it's own just screams similarities to RAMBUS.

                  4) Their was apparently a precedent made between University of California and AT&T way back with BSD. It was allegded that BSD was doing some of the same things that Linux is doing. The lawsuit was resolved by the UofC voluntarily modify a few source files only because they did not want to waste the effort of taking it to court.

                  In all honesty at the very worst the Linux Kernel team will have to modify a function or two in a few files. My opinion on all of this is I believe that there is no real proof behind the allegations. If there was SCO could easily publish a case or two to back up it's case. The assertion that doing so would undermine it's case is total hogwash since the history of Linux Kernel Revisions are archived on the net and on the many CDs that have distributed Linux. In the end SCO should really consider why no one wants their intel based Unix.... perhaps they should spend the time improving it then threatening and suing people on near baseless claims?
                  The poster formerly known as "ahardjan"

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                  • James_D
                    MURCer
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 407

                    #10



                    for those who are interested, its a looooooong read..

                    But very interesting.


                    James.
                    Mater tua criceta fuit, et pater tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus.

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                    • Technoid
                      Super MURCer
                      • Sep 1999
                      • 7645

                      #11
                      Originally posted by James_D
                      http://www.opensource.org/sco-vs-ibm.html


                      for those who are interested, its a looooooong read..

                      But very interesting.


                      James.
                      hehe, SCO sounds like in the whole wide world only THEY can code
                      If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

                      Jeremy Clarkson "806 brake horsepower..and that on that limp wrist faerie liquid the Americans call petrol, if you run it on the more explosive jungle juice we have in Europe you'd be getting 850 brake horsepower..."

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                      • The PIT
                        Super MURCer
                        • Aug 1999
                        • 11901

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Technoid
                        hehe, SCO sounds like in the whole wide world only THEY can code
                        I think old Bill would disagree. Surely thats the mighty microshaft.
                        Chief Lemon Buyer no more Linux sucks but not as much
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                        • Taz
                          Super MURCer
                          • Nov 1999
                          • 1393

                          #13
                          Why use money to improve your product when you can spend it on litigation to stop others producing theirs
                          When you own your own business you only have to work half a day. You can do anything you want with the other twelve hours.

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                          • TnT
                            Super MURCer
                            • Sep 1999
                            • 1644

                            #14
                            I've been following this whole ordeal for some time, so didn't read any articles you guys linked to , so maybe some overlap.

                            The fact that SCO has been distributing Linux means that they have agreed to the terms of the GPL, thus the code in question is already under the GPL. That so far is the biggest gotcha, but from what I've read it won't take down the case.

                            MS has licensed the code from SCO for some reason, I'm not sure.

                            Here's Torvalds current input:
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                            • James_D
                              MURCer
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 407

                              #15
                              A new twist.

                              Well it looks like SCO managed to piss of Novell. Check out this new development



                              This just looks better and better..

                              James.
                              Mater tua criceta fuit, et pater tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus.

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