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  • J1NG
    Super MURCer
    • Feb 2000
    • 1388

    #16
    Each to their own preferences I suppose on RAM. If you do anything half serious on a modern system and OS, Wombat is right. 512MB isn't enough.

    J1NG

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    • az
      Moderator
      • Feb 2001
      • 9336

      #17
      ... or just paint it

      I don't know what PSUs are hot atm. I have heard the 400w Zalman is quieter than the 350, though also has a lot weaker fan. The Seventeam PSUs are good and not too loud. Can be had with Verax fans, very quiet, but expensive.

      AZ
      There's an Opera in my macbook.

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      • Jammrock
        The Berserker
        • Aug 1999
        • 8661

        #18
        The firewire Echo boxes are due out by the end of the year, early next year at the latest. If prices are similar to the Indigo I would suspect the prices to range from $100-$250. I don't know any solid details besides they are releasing a firewire audio solution by the end of the year.

        So make sure your mobo has firewire on it

        Jammrock
        “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
        –The Light Fantastic, Terry Pratchett

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        • the main lobe
          mini MURCer
          • Mar 2003
          • 51

          #19
          I'd spring for an Intel Board

          If you do decide to go with an Intel CPU, I'd strongly consider an Intel board. It is *in my opinion* good though that the mainboard you are considering (although I truly dislike Abit) has an intel chipset. Only other suggestion is to go SCSI. More expensive, but in my case I really feel it was worth it in the long run.
          Just a month left of grad school!

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          • az
            Moderator
            • Feb 2001
            • 9336

            #20
            Yes, if you do go intel, get an intel board with CSA.

            AZ
            There's an Opera in my macbook.

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            • Jammrock
              The Berserker
              • Aug 1999
              • 8661

              #21
              Re: I'd spring for an Intel Board

              Originally posted by the main lobe
              If you do decide to go with an Intel CPU, I'd strongly consider an Intel board. It is *in my opinion* good though that the mainboard you are considering (although I truly dislike Abit) has an intel chipset. Only other suggestion is to go SCSI. More expensive, but in my case I really feel it was worth it in the long run.
              That depends. If you plan on overclocking and tweaking, and since you are getting a watercooler bets are you are going to seriously overclock, DO NOT get an Intel board. It has nearly no overclock and mobo tweak options. Just ask dZeus.

              Yes, if you do go intel, get an intel board with CSA.
              Yes, definately. CSA is a wonderful concept. There are non-Intel boards that have it, like the Gigabyte GA-8KNXP Ultra,or the regular version has it as well..

              Jammrock
              “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
              –The Light Fantastic, Terry Pratchett

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              • az
                Moderator
                • Feb 2001
                • 9336

                #22
                Intel has released or is going to release some colorful windows overclocking tool for their own boards...

                AZ
                There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                • Jammrock
                  The Berserker
                  • Aug 1999
                  • 8661

                  #23
                  They've been saying that for a while. I'd still rather get a 3rd party board with CSA and already built-in overclock tools.

                  Jammrock
                  “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
                  –The Light Fantastic, Terry Pratchett

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                  • Admiral
                    Super MURCer
                    • Aug 2000
                    • 3125

                    #24
                    Considering that for dual channel it's critical to have access to memory timings I'd advise against an Intel built board. From what I know you have to do a bios flash to change tRas, Ras to Cas and other timings except maybe CAS latency itself. And that if you know what Intel changed in the different bios versions or if a bios editor for these boards exists.

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                    • dZeus
                      Moderator
                      • Aug 2000
                      • 4622

                      #25
                      Originally posted by az
                      Intel has released or is going to release some colorful windows overclocking tool for their own boards...

                      AZ
                      not true. This utility won't allow for overclocking. Or at least not more than the BIOS supports (4%).

                      It's more meant to control fan speeds and view the voltages etc.

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                      • K6-III
                        Super MURCer
                        • Dec 2000
                        • 2253

                        #26
                        A very good reason to go with MAudio for Athlon 64 is that they claim that they'll have AMD64 drivers upon launch of WinXP-64bit
                        Let us return to the moon, to stay!!!

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                        • az
                          Moderator
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 9336

                          #27
                          Which is next year. I tell you, it's too early to adopt AMD64.. at least wait for the second generation A64FX, when you won't need registered RAM anymore.

                          AZ
                          There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                          • knirfie
                            MURCer
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 789

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Admiral


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                            Where the situation gets a bit cloudy is in gaming performance, as VIA decided to forego DirectSound and DirectSound 3D acceleration in the Envy24HT. This is stranger still because the original Envy24 did feature hardware acceleration. The Envy24HT certainly does have the high-end audio specifications, but we'll have to see if today's higher-clocked processors can make up for the loss in 3D audio acceleration.
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                            ups !
                            that's a bad thing, right?
                            Main Machine: Intel Q6600@3.33, Abit IP-35 E, 4 x Geil 2048MB PC2-6400-CL4, Asus Geforce 8800GTS 512MB@700/2100, 150GB WD Raptor, Highpoint RR2640, 3x Seagate LP 1.5TB (RAID5), NEC-3500 DVD+/-R(W), Antec SLK3700BQE case, BeQuiet! DarkPower Pro 530W

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                            • knirfie
                              MURCer
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 789

                              #29
                              Ok

                              1. the plextor drive is staying, i'm not gonna bother with dyeing my drive black or changing the front for a lousy €4 difference.

                              2. 2 choices right now for the mobo: Abit IC7-G or Asus P4C800-E Deluxe, both feature the ICH5R southbridge and CSA (the Abit also has an extra SATA controler and is €27 cheaper)

                              3. any soundcard featuring the Envy24HT chip is off, because i dont want unnecesairy CPU utilization.

                              4. Probably gonna be Intel, unless somebody can give me some darn good reasons to get the Athlon64 config, i know, athlon 64 sounds nice, but €460 for a processor is a bit too much.
                              Main Machine: Intel Q6600@3.33, Abit IP-35 E, 4 x Geil 2048MB PC2-6400-CL4, Asus Geforce 8800GTS 512MB@700/2100, 150GB WD Raptor, Highpoint RR2640, 3x Seagate LP 1.5TB (RAID5), NEC-3500 DVD+/-R(W), Antec SLK3700BQE case, BeQuiet! DarkPower Pro 530W

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                              • dZeus
                                Moderator
                                • Aug 2000
                                • 4622

                                #30
                                Get the Asus.. it looks like a solid board.

                                If you want to game, I suggest you get the Audigy2. It also is supposed to have superb audio fidelity. Downside is that it's dependant on Creative drivers for DirectSound3D and EAX support.

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