AMD introduces cheaper Athlon64 300+

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  • az
    Moderator
    • Feb 2001
    • 9336

    #1

    AMD introduces cheaper Athlon64 300+

    Socket 754, same clockspeed as A64 3200+, but smaller L2 cache, for 250 EUR.

    AZ
    There's an Opera in my macbook.
  • Chrono_Wanderer
    Super MURCer
    • Mar 2002
    • 2540

    #2
    woah!!! nice. finally!

    now I am waiting for a Socket 939 A64 FX

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    • K6-III
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      • Dec 2000
      • 2253

      #3
      Makes perfect sense...a great way to use defective A64's for something useful...
      Let us return to the moon, to stay!!!

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      • Technoid
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        • Sep 1999
        • 7645

        #4
        Originally posted by K6-III
        Makes perfect sense...a great way to use defective A64's for something useful...
        ROFL
        If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

        Jeremy Clarkson "806 brake horsepower..and that on that limp wrist faerie liquid the Americans call petrol, if you run it on the more explosive jungle juice we have in Europe you'd be getting 850 brake horsepower..."

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        • Indiana
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          • Mar 2000
          • 2410

          #5
          Originally posted by K6-III
          Makes perfect sense...a great way to use defective A64's for something useful...
          Well at least they don't sell it as a fully operational A64 at the full price - and then add a small text on their website that cache size might vary +/- 50%

          (I seem to remember having heard somewhere of a certain company doing exactly this...)
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          • Novdid
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            • Nov 2000
            • 2609

            #6
            Good move.

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            • ayoub_ibrahim
              Super MURCer
              • Dec 1999
              • 2445

              #7
              well it seems that that athlon beats the intel 3.2GHz in eight of the nine benchmarks, and one of them by 27%.

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              • Chrono_Wanderer
                Super MURCer
                • Mar 2002
                • 2540

                #8
                is that what they are really doing?

                Sorry for the n00bness, but how is it possible tho, just cut out the defective cache? :?

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                • Admiral
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                  • Aug 2000
                  • 3125

                  #9
                  It's not like the first time they do it, think Thorton (neutered Barton).

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                  • Wombat
                    Super MURCer
                    • Aug 2000
                    • 9498

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Chrono_Wanderer
                    is that what they are really doing?

                    Sorry for the n00bness, but how is it possible tho, just cut out the defective cache? :?
                    You don't have to cut it out, you just blow some fuses so that you don't try to use it. It's like having a blown bulb in a string of Christmas lights
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                    • az
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                      • Feb 2001
                      • 9336

                      #11
                      They cut bridges, but they're under the heatspreader.

                      AZ
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                      • Indiana
                        Super MURCer
                        • Mar 2000
                        • 2410

                        #12
                        And Intel does/did the same with their Celeron - and ATi does/did the same with the Radeon9500 and 9800SE products. And NVidia does a similar thing with their "XT" cards.

                        And Matrox does... - no wait, they're selling the defective chips just lower clocked at the same price as the full clocked retail .
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                        • Wombat
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                          • Aug 2000
                          • 9498

                          #13
                          Originally posted by az
                          They cut bridges, but they're under the heatspreader.

                          AZ
                          Speaking from design experience, intel doesn't just use bridges. They have one-time fuses on the silicon that can't be fixed. They can be blown after packaging.
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                          • bsdgeek
                            Super MURCer
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 1543

                            #14
                            Probably as you say, but as can be seen with Thorton and Applebred, all AMD uses is the bridges.

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                            • Chrono_Wanderer
                              Super MURCer
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 2540

                              #15
                              ah, that makes a lot of sense. that's a very smart way to sell defective stuff!

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