What happened to JPEG 2000?

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  • Topha
    Super MURCer
    • Jan 2001
    • 1235

    #1

    What happened to JPEG 2000?

    Wasnt it supposed to replace the standard JPEG format a while back? I remember reading about it about 2 or 3 years ago, and it seemed like it would just replace the old JPEG in smooth transition.

    What happened? Patent problems, not accepted, not ready, already there?
  • az
    Moderator
    • Feb 2001
    • 9336

    #2
    Already there - there are plugins, etc. Don't know why it didn't take off - probably because no browser supports it natively, which is probably because IE doesn't.

    AZ
    There's an Opera in my macbook.

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    • TransformX
      Super MURCer
      • Sep 2003
      • 4946

      #3
      And also because it's a patented thing - commercial.
      "For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism."

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      • Wombat
        Super MURCer
        • Aug 2000
        • 9498

        #4
        I don't think JPEG2000 is encumbered by patents. Actually, the opposite is true - people have patents on DCT they're threatening to use. JPEG2000 uses wavelet compression.

        The prime reasons seem to be that:
        1) JPEG2000 is much more CPU intensive.
        2) It's not superior to standard JPEG in every way, it's got situations where it looks much worse than the DCT methods.
        Last edited by Wombat; 18 May 2004, 11:08.
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        • The PIT
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          • Aug 1999
          • 11901

          #5
          It's paintshop pro as an option so it's around.
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          • Nicram
            MURCer
            • Mar 2002
            • 279

            #6
            IE sucks. Even PNG format still isn't supported well
            A CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just 4 hours...

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            • KvHagedorn
              Super MURCer
              • Aug 1999
              • 10725

              #7
              With everyone now using broadband and 200gb hard drives, the tiff format should now be standard, so we could have better quality images.

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              • Wombat
                Super MURCer
                • Aug 2000
                • 9498

                #8
                That's the thing, it's not everyone. It's not even half of American internet users.

                Plus, as an occasional content provider, I have neither the space nor the bandwidth limits for TIFFs.
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                • 3dfx
                  MURCer
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 697

                  #9
                  It's even worse in the UK apply as only 25 - 30% of the actual internet users are broadband.

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                  • K6-III
                    Super MURCer
                    • Dec 2000
                    • 2253

                    #10
                    ...but think about South Korea...
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                    • Topha
                      Super MURCer
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 1235

                      #11
                      Thanks for the info

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                      • leech
                        Super MURCer
                        • Oct 1999
                        • 1918

                        #12
                        I know that 'apt-get install libjasper-1.700-2' will install the jasper library, though the damn dev package is currently broken in Debian Sid.

                        It is out there, I have so far seen one program that uses it. GYachE, which is a Yahoo client for Linux that supports Yahoo's webcam and voice features. It requires jasper (Jpeg 2000) to work properly.

                        I haven't gotten it to compile yet, because of that damn dev issue... that and GYachE says it should use a patched version of the jasper library... ick, oh well, eventually I'll try it again, just ran out of time and patience last time....

                        Leech
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                        • az
                          Moderator
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 9336

                          #13
                          So tell me, if it's that easy, why is Linux still Alternative Lifestyle?

                          AZ
                          There's an Opera in my macbook.

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