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  • Paddy
    Super MURCer
    • Mar 2000
    • 6067

    #1

    Silly SATA Question

    I havn't seen any SATA cables that have more than two conncetors on them. How do I connect more than two HDs to my mobo?
    The Welsh support two teams when it comes to rugby. Wales of course, and anyone else playing England
  • DGhost
    Super MURCer
    • May 2000
    • 2573

    #2
    with two different cables and two ports?

    SATA currently only supports one device per port.
    "And yet, after spending 20+ years trying to evolve the user interface into something better, what's the most powerful improvement Apple was able to make? They finally put a god damned shell back in." -jwz

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    • Paddy
      Super MURCer
      • Mar 2000
      • 6067

      #3
      OK... so I have two SATA drives connected to my Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe mobo... How do I attach more devices? Do i have to buy a seperate SATA controller?
      The Welsh support two teams when it comes to rugby. Wales of course, and anyone else playing England

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      • DGhost
        Super MURCer
        • May 2000
        • 2573

        #4
        errm, yeah, i just reread your original question and it makes a bit more sense now...

        if your motherboard only has two SATA ports, you can only have two drives. if you want more than what the motherboard has, you need a PCI controller for it. newer motherboards have gotten around this issue by having 4+ SATA ports on them, and eventually the SATA spec will be updated to include "hubs" that you can use.
        "And yet, after spending 20+ years trying to evolve the user interface into something better, what's the most powerful improvement Apple was able to make? They finally put a god damned shell back in." -jwz

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        • Paddy
          Super MURCer
          • Mar 2000
          • 6067

          #5
          Bummer....

          Can anyone recommend a good PCI SATA controller?
          The Welsh support two teams when it comes to rugby. Wales of course, and anyone else playing England

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          • ayoub_ibrahim
            Super MURCer
            • Dec 1999
            • 2445

            #6
            hehe, and you thought that ide was old fashioned!

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            • SpiralDragon
              Super MURCer
              • May 2002
              • 3548

              #7
              on the highend adaptec has some realy nice SATA raid controlers that have their own mem and raid proc... and up to 16 stata ports... on the cheep end i would recomend promis tech.. 4 port sata raid controlers.. they are prety good... or intels own home made brew... with an on board proc and mem..
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              • SpiralDragon
                Super MURCer
                • May 2002
                • 3548

                #8
                but got to admit.. even with software stipe set... the improvment in data rates on just 2 drives (and one even) is termendous...
                "They say that dreams are real only as long as they last. Couldn't you say the same thing about life?"

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                • Ribbit
                  Super MURCer
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 1174

                  #9
                  Get an SAS controller when they show up

                  Actually I'm only half-joking. SAS, IIRC, is implemented as a superset of SATA. You can daisy-chain SAS drives together, and you can connect SATA drives up as well. I think you can daisy-chain SATA drives, but don't quote me on that.

                  Not that any of this helps Paddy right now
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                  • Jammrock
                    The Berserker
                    • Aug 1999
                    • 8661

                    #10
                    SATA is designed to only have 1 device per mobo connection. It helps reduce crosstalk problems (less wires), and performace issues like when 2 devices are on the same IDE channel. And with the size of SATA connectors and cables, you really don't need multiple devices per cable.

                    Jammrock
                    “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
                    –The Light Fantastic, Terry Pratchett

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                    • az
                      Moderator
                      • Feb 2001
                      • 9336

                      #11
                      Wait till you can get drives and controllers that support nqc. Won't be long now.

                      AZ
                      There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                      • Fred H
                        Super MURCer
                        • Nov 1999
                        • 962

                        #12
                        I have always problems with the single SATA drive in my P4C800-E Deluxe when I go to DOS. I must set the BIOS for compatible mode otherwise it doesn't recognize my DVD drives.
                        And more. In DOS I had to create a special Ghost.exe file compatibel with the SATA drive. But, I definitly not ghost the system to my SATA drive.
                        If I will to ghost-back from CD/DVD i need another ghost.exe file + reseting the BIOS. Very irritating.
                        More: every time I put my hand inside the PC the SATA cable jumps out from the socket. Not so with the IDE cables.
                        I should go with IDE drives, even with an extra PCI card.
                        I couldn't find the SATA faster than a good ATA drive.
                        Tell me if I do something wrong.

                        Fred
                        Last edited by Fred H; 18 July 2004, 02:08.
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                        • The PIT
                          Super MURCer
                          • Aug 1999
                          • 11901

                          #13
                          Funny every recent review about raid for the desktop say theres no real world improvement.
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                          • UtwigMU
                            Super MURCer
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 5651

                            #14
                            Well if you use other RAID than 0, there's redundancy.

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                            • Wombat
                              Super MURCer
                              • Aug 2000
                              • 9498

                              #15
                              Originally posted by The PIT
                              Funny every recent review about raid for the desktop say theres no real world improvement.
                              It depends what you're doing with it. First, running Windows on RAID doesn't help much, it's got borked RAID settings. Editing them by hand can help.

                              Second, even a good RAID 1 setup will show some performance benefits if the card is good: they'll stripe the reads.
                              Last edited by Wombat; 19 July 2004, 17:19.
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