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  • borat
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    • Jul 2001
    • 1035

    #1

    LCD colour depth

    can Modern LCD's actually fully produce anything above 16bit colour depth? i seem to remember reading ages ago they could not but wondered if things had changed at all
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  • JTD
    MURCer
    • Sep 2002
    • 163

    #2
    Re: LCD colour depth

    Originally posted by borat
    can Modern LCD's actually fully produce anything above 16bit colour depth? i seem to remember reading ages ago they could not but wondered if things had changed at all
    cheers
    will
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    • Greebe
      Super MURCer
      • Aug 1999
      • 8555

      #3
      only the higher end models can, most a far less and even then are interpolated (correct term?... tired) from a much lower color depth, typically 6-8 bit if memory serves me correct
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      • Fluff
        Super MURCer
        • Apr 2002
        • 1522

        #4
        On another note... With DVI, what is the maximum number of colours that can be sent? 16.7million?
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        • Greebe
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          • Aug 1999
          • 8555

          #5
          Would you like the DVI 1.0 spec pdf... will up it to my ftp

          or you can grab it yourself from www.ddwg.org after registering
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          • Jammrock
            The Berserker
            • Aug 1999
            • 8661

            #6
            The main reason why manufactures go with 6-/8-bit is because it's cheaper and they get better response rates. All the sub-20 ms refresh LCDs are 6-bit color depth. So if you're looking for a dual gaming/graphics/CAD style LCD, you're screwed.

            The recommendation is to get the LCD that fits the bill best, i.e. whether graphics and color are more important than refresh rate for gaming and video.

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            • rylan
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              • Sep 1999
              • 2347

              #7
              Yeah a lot of the 15" and some 17" LCDs use an interface from their A/D electronic board to the panel called '6bit +2FRS', or actually use native 6 bit glass. With 6bit you get 262K colors. The "FRS" method is basically an interpolation done on the scalar chip so they can use a cheaper dvi receiver and cheaper scalar. You won't get 16.7mil colors with that obviously, but its better than the 262K.

              Now, even though the better LCDs (from 19" up) claim 16.7million colors due to 8bit/color, you're not realistically going to get that because of technological limitations of the actual LCD crystals and structure of the panel. Instead of 24 bits, its closer to 21 bits of actual visible color data if measured. Thats where CRTs are still superior to LCDs... accurate color reproduction.

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              • borat
                Super MURCer
                • Jul 2001
                • 1035

                #8
                well i just had the weirdest thing happen, i currently have a dell 20" LCD connected via DVI to a radeon 7000 PCI, i had the colour depth set to 32 bit. When i tried to scroll in any application it cursor would low down to a crawl and it would scroll pitifully slowly when veiwing things like these forums, now i have the colour depth set to 16 bit and everything is fine. Found it quite bizarre as it never happens when the screen is hooked onto my parhelia.
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                • UtwigMU
                  Super MURCer
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5651

                  #9
                  borat, I think Radeon7000 might run in memory limitations at 16x12@32-bit.

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                  • borat
                    Super MURCer
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 1035

                    #10
                    not really up to speed with memory limitations and Resolutions, what do you mean by this?
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                    • Greebe
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                      • Aug 1999
                      • 8555

                      #11
                      Originally posted by UtwigMU
                      borat, I think Radeon7000 might run in memory limitations at 16x12@32-bit.
                      I don't.
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                      • The PIT
                        Super MURCer
                        • Aug 1999
                        • 11901

                        #12
                        This is why I'm thinking off buying another CRT for my Photos. The differance between the print outs and whats is displayed is quite marked with my Dell.

                        Didn't have that problem with the CRT.

                        Yes I'm am using the correct icc for both devices.

                        I then think about ATI's drivers getting mixed up over which driver too use when you have two very different monitors.
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                        • rylan
                          Super MURCer
                          • Sep 1999
                          • 2347

                          #13
                          Borat, you're pushing too much data over the PCI bus and saturating the available bandwidth at that resolution and color depth... hence the apparent slowdown.

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                          • Fluff
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                            • Apr 2002
                            • 1522

                            #14


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                            • Wombat
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                              • Aug 2000
                              • 9498

                              #15
                              Originally posted by rylan
                              Borat, you're pushing too much data over the PCI bus and saturating the available bandwidth at that resolution and color depth... hence the apparent slowdown.
                              I doubt that's what is happening. Maybe a bus-mastering issue, or badly installed drivers, or something.
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