Don't install SP2 if you have an AM64 system

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  • Helevitia
    Super MURCer
    • Aug 1999
    • 6628

    #1

    Don't install SP2 if you have an AM64 system

    Glad I didn't install it yet.

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  • J1NG
    Super MURCer
    • Feb 2000
    • 1388

    #2
    Uh? Don't anything remotely happening like that. On both Opteron setups.

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    • schmosef
      Super MURCer
      • Dec 2002
      • 5813

      #3
      Hmm,

      I wonder why this doesn't affect their software emulated DEP that gets enabled on non-DEP cpus.

      Do you have a Hollywood Magic DVD decoder? Popular in the day but I haven't sold any for a long time.

      I suppose you could always disable DEP in the boot.ini.
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      • Kooldino
        Super MURCer
        • Nov 2002
        • 3026

        #4
        So it only causes issues with that DVD program?


        What's DEP all about?

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        • KeiFront
          Super MURCer
          • Sep 2001
          • 2668

          #5
          Data Execution Prevention (DEP), also known as No Execute or NX, it prevents the execution of code in memory regions marked as data storage you can find more about it at the microsoft website.
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          • The PIT
            Super MURCer
            • Aug 1999
            • 11901

            #6
            Just turn it off like I had to do. Can't see a problem.
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            • DGhost
              Super MURCer
              • May 2000
              • 2573

              #7
              the question i have is why would anyone have a hollywood DVD decoder in an Athlon64 system...

              i mean, shit, you might as well toss your Voodoo2 back in as well...

              anyways, I have yet to see a problem with DEP on my Athlon64...
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              • iKwak
                mini MURCer
                • Jun 2004
                • 24

                #8
                I heard about this too on another board. Wonder what their motives are/were.
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                • Adis
                  MURCer
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 546

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Helevitia
                  Don't install SP2 if you have an AM64 system
                  Or don't use AMD processors

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                  • Wombat
                    Super MURCer
                    • Aug 2000
                    • 9498

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DGhost
                    the question i have is why would anyone have a hollywood DVD decoder in an Athlon64 system...
                    A roommate of mine had one of those cards. He held on to it for quite a while because of the remote control.
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                    • Kurt
                      Super MURCer
                      • Feb 2000
                      • 1839

                      #11
                      I don't know why all the fuss...one problematic card over a zillion...heck ppl still buy VIA-based boards after all...and nobody complains...

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                      • [GDI]Raptor
                        Super MURCer
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 1045

                        #12
                        Originally posted by adis
                        Or don't use AMD processors
                        Why use something hoter, and slower (P4)? And that doesn't suport NX-bit? (All Intel processors except Itanium)

                        Ok... Don't quite get the problem here, why just not put the DVD software in the list off applications that doesn't use DEP?

                        If this is a hardware DVD decoder... I think Athlon64 can do this much faster. I play DVD's with PowerDVD XP and my processor runs at 800Mhz (with Cool 'n Quiet)

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                        • Indiana
                          Super MURCer
                          • Mar 2000
                          • 2410

                          #13
                          I have SP2 installed and no big problems.
                          ONLY AMD CPUs support hardware execution prevention, so it's no wonder that only they are experiencing problems that occur from using this with non-compatible (read: badly written) software.

                          And in any case, you can still turn off the more safe hardware execution prevention and still use the same software solution as on Intels CPUs.
                          You can even turn the hardware solution off for specific applications and still kepp it for everything else. I did have to disable this feature for Mozilla Firefox and have it turned on for everything else and didn't encounter any problems whatsoever.
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                          • Wombat
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                            • Aug 2000
                            • 9498

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Indiana
                            I have SP2 installed and no big problems.
                            ONLY AMD CPUs support hardware execution prevention, so it's no wonder that only they are experiencing problems that occur from using this with non-compatible (read: badly written) software.
                            I wouldn't call it badly written. You can't futureproof against everything. And maybe the code ran faster the way it was written.
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                            • Indiana
                              Super MURCer
                              • Mar 2000
                              • 2410

                              #15
                              Well, but still I think any decent written software should NEVER try to execute code that's explicitely marked as storage data...
                              This would make a BIG security-hole, or?
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