How to keep the wolves at bay (ad/spy/virus advice)

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  • moreau
    MURCer
    • Sep 1999
    • 444

    #1

    How to keep the wolves at bay (ad/spy/virus advice)

    I recently found all three of my computers (home, work, laptop) chock full of adware and spyware. Luckily I've been virus free.

    Currently I'm using the following protocol: windows update regularly, symantec antivirus client, spybot S&D, Ad-aware.

    I update each program and scan every couple of days.

    Is this enough to keep one's computers clean? Other proggies to fill in the cracks left by the above? Proper order to scan these things?

    Thanks,
    CEM

    P.S. please save your "stop looking at pr0n" jokes. I have just as much humor as the next person, but I don't care for the insinuation, nonetheless. (not angry, just sayin...)
    System: P4 2.4, 512k 533FSB, Giga-Byte GA-8PE667 Ultra, 1024MB Corsair XMS PC333, Maxtor D740x 60GB, Turtle Beach Santa Cruz, PCPower&Cooling Silencer 400.

    Capture Drives (for now): IBM 36LZX 9.1, Quantum Atlas 10KII 9.1 on Adaptec 29160
  • moreau
    MURCer
    • Sep 1999
    • 444

    #2
    P.S. I use sp2 with the firewall up, IE with the blockers in place, and Mozilla 0.9.

    That seemed pertinent.

    CEM
    System: P4 2.4, 512k 533FSB, Giga-Byte GA-8PE667 Ultra, 1024MB Corsair XMS PC333, Maxtor D740x 60GB, Turtle Beach Santa Cruz, PCPower&Cooling Silencer 400.

    Capture Drives (for now): IBM 36LZX 9.1, Quantum Atlas 10KII 9.1 on Adaptec 29160

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    • UtwigMU
      Super MURCer
      • Jul 2002
      • 5651

      #3
      This should be enough.

      I have noticed that since I switched to Mozilla (suite) at arround version 1.3 (now on Firefox 1.0PR), the only spyware I got were tracking cookies, so make Firefox default browser and use IE only for Windows Update.

      Otherwise, don't install random trialware. Usually for every task there's a spyware free freeware and/or opensource application. Before installing search google for "application name spyware" and ask forums for recommendation.

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      • schmosef
        Super MURCer
        • Dec 2002
        • 5813

        #4
        AdwareAway has been very useful in cleansing junk that spybot and AdAware have missed. Especially pesky IE hijacks.
        P.S. You've been Spanked!

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        • Byock
          Super MURCer
          • Jul 2000
          • 2328

          #5
          I had the same problem, since I started using Firebird, and only using IE for Windows update, I only seem to have tracking cookies as well.
          "I dream of a better world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned."

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          • moreau
            MURCer
            • Sep 1999
            • 444

            #6
            thnx all.

            Others with comments?

            CEM
            System: P4 2.4, 512k 533FSB, Giga-Byte GA-8PE667 Ultra, 1024MB Corsair XMS PC333, Maxtor D740x 60GB, Turtle Beach Santa Cruz, PCPower&Cooling Silencer 400.

            Capture Drives (for now): IBM 36LZX 9.1, Quantum Atlas 10KII 9.1 on Adaptec 29160

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            • Wombat
              Super MURCer
              • Aug 2000
              • 9498

              #7
              Just to reiterate: Don't use IE. Don't use Outlook.
              Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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              • dbdg
                Super MURCer
                • Sep 1999
                • 1030

                #8
                I use IE, OE, Sygate and AVG7.

                All AdAwarePro/SE ever picks up on my rig is tracking cookies.

                IE/OE aren't that evil when it comes to allowing spyware in, at least from my point of view.

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                • ZokesPro
                  Serial Murcerer
                  • Sep 2000
                  • 8325

                  #9
                  Best anti-spyware software I've used is Spybot, you can also update it for free and there's an option to immunize which works damn well.
                  Titanium is the new bling!
                  (you heard from me first!)

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                  • moreau
                    MURCer
                    • Sep 1999
                    • 444

                    #10
                    You know what would be nice:

                    If these programs would not just tell you which things are evil, but what the non-evil things on your machine actually do.

                    Specifically, if they could tell you what all of the processes in task manager do, so you know if they are or are not malicious, and are just being missed by spybot, etc.

                    I end up going through my process list occasionally and Google searching to find out the origins of each process. Have occassionally found things there I didn't want (or need), that weren't caught by spybot, etc.

                    Just a thought.

                    CEM
                    System: P4 2.4, 512k 533FSB, Giga-Byte GA-8PE667 Ultra, 1024MB Corsair XMS PC333, Maxtor D740x 60GB, Turtle Beach Santa Cruz, PCPower&Cooling Silencer 400.

                    Capture Drives (for now): IBM 36LZX 9.1, Quantum Atlas 10KII 9.1 on Adaptec 29160

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                    • ZokesPro
                      Serial Murcerer
                      • Sep 2000
                      • 8325

                      #11
                      I know what you mean, but as far as I know, there isn't such a software.
                      Titanium is the new bling!
                      (you heard from me first!)

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                      • GNEP
                        Super MURCer
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 5241

                        #12
                        I tend to google processes that are new to me - quite educational usually and has led to me killing things that AdAware and Spybot haven't caught (for example with "HijackThis")
                        DM says: Crunch with Matrox Users@ClimatePrediction.net

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                        • leech
                          Super MURCer
                          • Oct 1999
                          • 1918

                          #13
                          *cough* I know people will get pissed at this... but... Use linux.. Spyware free :-) Well, ok, tracking cookies I'm sure could still be installed... but that's a vulnerability of the web itself.

                          In windows, the ONLY adware crap I get is from file-sharing clients. I run Adaware about once a week or so, and it may find two tracking cookies and that's it. I don't even use an anti-virus software, because generally I know what I'm downloading, and I don't open it in windows if I'm not sure.

                          Leech
                          Wah! Wah!

                          In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penises, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship.

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                          • Kooldino
                            Super MURCer
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 3026

                            #14
                            I was gonna come on and say linux. But if you're using firefox, that will stop you from getting 90% of them. For now.

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                            • Fat Tone
                              Super MURCer
                              • Aug 1999
                              • 7579

                              #15
                              I use XP SP2, Sophos, Adaware and I'm behind a h/w firewall.

                              As others said, pretty much the only thing Adaware finds is tracking cookies.

                              I colleague had a nasty experience a couple of weeks ago: He brought his machine in for me to 'cleanse' (see my "how can people be so f'ing stupid" thread). Adaware cleaned it up after a couple of goes, but didn't repair the damage done to the Winsock by SAHagent (sp?). That took me a couple of hours on the phone with him once he got it back home. He is now a very religious updater/cleanser!

                              T.
                              FT.

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