My Browser is better than yours!

[az]

Sparked by recent events, I'll open this contest. Prove to me that Firefox is a better browser than Opera (And I'll try to disprove your claims by showing you can do exactly that, but better, in Opera - which will not happen every time, of course)

Write about your favourite FF/IE/Moz/Safari/Konqeror/iCab/IE extension feature here, I'm curious

(Ahem... I know FF can do ad blocking and flash blocking, but I don't need that. I don't like popups, but I have no problem with ads per se - some sites only survive because of them, and as long as they aren't flashing in wild colors all over the place, then that's no problem for me. If they are, I won't visit that site.)

AZ

[Sasq]

step one.
Az downloads FF and installs it.
Then comes back and asks how to make it do all the things he wants

[isochar]

step two.
... and then discovers all the things he didn't know he wanted.

[az]

Why would I want to do that Sasq? Opera does all the things I want it to do. Besides, I really don't have the nerve to install a browser, then look for extensions to add functionality I already have, AND learn all the new keyboard shortcuts (or reconfigure everything).

AZ

[Sasq]

install, no reg stuff, tools, extentions-> find new extentions. end of hassel.
try it, or I do change your title to fanboy

[VJ]

Lynx:
1. It supports native text only support (thus less transfers, thus faster).
2. Lynx allows for much faster browsing using the keyboard (right arrow=follow link, left arrow=back, up/down arrows=walk through links on the page, g=enter url, v=view bookmarks, ...).
3. I can run lynx from a text only SSH terminal.
4. I can use cron to have lynx dump content to a file (i.e. to schedule it so that it starts downloading a large file at a given time, unattended !
5. No risk of malicious java scripts or annoying pop-ups
6. Coolness factor is way way way better than any music-related named browser.


Jörg

[Jessterw]

Firefox. It just looks better on the Mac

[az]

1.: Possible and better with Opera. Just disable loading of images. These text-only pages can be styled all you want, with custom stylesheets. You can even make it look like on the C64. And you can still zoom.

2.: Possible and better with Opera: Either use spatial navigation (shift+arrow to navigate links not only on a prev-next basis, but on the 2-dimensional plane (the page itself)), or use q and a, enter to follow link (combine with shift to open in new tab, control shift to open in background tab), F8 to focus address field (or F2 to show an "enter address" window when you prefer not to have the address field shown). Keys can of course be changed.

I'll give you 3 and 4

5.: You can disable Javascript, Java, and PlugIns with F12 and one click each.

6.: No

AZ

EDIT: This was directed towards Jörg

[az]

JW: That is hardly an argument. And you know I have no mac so I can't disprove your claim

AZ

[Sasq]

see title Az.
try browser then comment.

[William]

Firefox can do Motorola's site.

[Jessterw]

Oh I know, I don't really have any arguments either way. I just use Firefox because it works for me. By the way, I was once a paid user of Opera and I was quite happy with it at the time.

My personal opinion on the matter is that each browser fits a particular way of browsing.

[VJ]

Az:

Originally posted by az
1.: Possible and better with Opera. Just disable loading of images. These text-only pages can be styled all you want, with custom stylesheets. You can even make it look like on the C64. And you can still zoom.

1. Not a valid alternative on some displays. I just want *native* text mode.

2.: Possible and better with Opera: Either use spatial navigation (shift+arrow to navigate links not only on a prev-next basis, but on the 2-dimensional plane (the page itself)), or use q and a, enter to follow link (combine with shift to open in new tab, control shift to open in background tab), F8 to focus address field (or F2 to show an "enter address" window when you prefer not to have the address field shown). Keys can of course be changed.

Pff, fidling around with shift, function keys, ... Using the cursor is much more intuitive. Scrolling is also not an issue when browsing in text mode in lynx.

I'll give you 3 and 4

It is a start...

5.: You can disable Javascript, Java, and PlugIns with F12 and one click each.

Yes, but you often see traces of missing stuff on the page. I know it is missing, I needn't be reminded of it.

6.: No

Just browse in a public place with Opera. People will know you are browsing, but they won't see much difference.
Now do the same with lynx: you have a text mode interface in which you can navigate without a mouse, people really wonder what you are looking at. How's that for cool ?

Or what about Konquerer?
It can actually perform spellingchecking in the browserinterface, for instance to spellcheck the messages you type on a forum!

@ the title


Jörg

[Jammrock]

I like Opera because all the cool kids use it You FireFox guys are just weenies being herded like cattle to use FireFox because CNN did a spot on it.

[agallag]

Here's something I like in Avant Browser (an IE extension) that I can't figure out how to do in FireFox.

Reordering of tabs. Say I have my webmail open in one of my tabs. I like having that as my first tab, so I always know where it is. In AB, I just click and drag the tab to it's new location. I can't find a way to do that in FF.

Can you do this in Opera?