Firewalls, firewalls...which ones to use?

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  • oceaneer
    MURCer
    • Nov 1999
    • 161

    #1

    Firewalls, firewalls...which ones to use?

    OK, winXP has one, my cable modem (Lynksys) has one, my cable provider (Millennium) has one, I have one (Zone alarm). Should I use just one, or will they all work together? Somehow I don't think they will......

    What is going to work best here? I am just setting the new computer up, and as of now have only XP installed with no net connection - leaving firewalls and antivirus off until all my programs get installed.

    Thanks
    P4 2.8/533 on MSI 865PE Neo2 Platinum, 1G Crucial, ATI 9600 XT, 5.1 catalyst drivers, TB Santa Cruz, 80G WD 7200 ATA 100, 350W PS Win XP SP2
  • Fluff
    Super MURCer
    • Apr 2002
    • 1522

    #2
    AVG 7 free and the built in xp sp2 firewall is what i use.

    Zone Alarm should be fine. Think it gives slightly better protection than built in one.
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    • oceaneer
      MURCer
      • Nov 1999
      • 161

      #3
      So you think running two will not cause any conflicts?
      P4 2.8/533 on MSI 865PE Neo2 Platinum, 1G Crucial, ATI 9600 XT, 5.1 catalyst drivers, TB Santa Cruz, 80G WD 7200 ATA 100, 350W PS Win XP SP2

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      • ZokesPro
        Serial Murcerer
        • Sep 2000
        • 8325

        #4
        I take it your cable provider offers you a 'software' firewall that you need to install? Like Freedom? (correct me if I'm wrong, btw I hate Freedom, the software)

        Just having a router is good enough, but if you want to be able to control each application individually then your router AND ZA will be sufficient, IMO.

        That's my setup at home, a d-link router with sygate personal firewall and it's been running flawlessly for many O months. (I de-activate windows firewall cause I hate them, but that's me)
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        • The PIT
          Super MURCer
          • Aug 1999
          • 11901

          #5
          I use a router with a built in firewall and a softwall firewall like Nortons.

          The router seems to block 99.9% of stuff and norton picks up the rest.

          Had bad experiances of both Zonealarm and Nortons in the past. Zonealarm turning everything off and then refusing to turn it back on and Nortons not uninstalling properly which Zonealarm has also suffered from.
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          • oceaneer
            MURCer
            • Nov 1999
            • 161

            #6
            Yes, the cable company provides a software firewall - not freedom, but the same thing. I think I will start with the router one, and introduce ZA and see what happens.

            Thanks
            P4 2.8/533 on MSI 865PE Neo2 Platinum, 1G Crucial, ATI 9600 XT, 5.1 catalyst drivers, TB Santa Cruz, 80G WD 7200 ATA 100, 350W PS Win XP SP2

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            • ZokesPro
              Serial Murcerer
              • Sep 2000
              • 8325

              #7
              Usually you only need a software firewall to control what programs access the net, aside from that, just having a router should be sufficient for the everyday user.
              Last edited by ZokesPro; 29 November 2004, 11:04.
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              • chaoliang
                MURCer
                • Feb 2002
                • 496

                #8
                I read somewhere that one doesn't really need a firewall if the real-time virus scanner is always on and works. The reason, they say, is that if only those true trojan horses settle on the system (which can't be avoided by firewalls), the firewalls are easily be tricked out. And virus scanners seem to treat such trojan horses as virus.

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                • Marshmallowman
                  Super MURCer
                  • Sep 1999
                  • 3416

                  #9
                  There are direct exploits whereby machine can by infected/taken over simply by being conected to the net....virus scanners don't stop that.

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                  • ZokesPro
                    Serial Murcerer
                    • Sep 2000
                    • 8325

                    #10
                    Originally posted by oceaneer
                    Yes, the cable company provides a software firewall - not freedom, but the same thing. I think I will start with the router one, and introduce ZA and see what happens.

                    Thanks
                    At least with a router, if you format or whatever and haven't installed a firewall yet, you needn't worry, tis why I love routers.
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                    (you heard from me first!)

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                    • Elie
                      MURC Writer
                      • Aug 1999
                      • 4420

                      #11
                      I would avoid software based F/W's like the plague!!

                      Nothing will do the job better and faster than a dedicated firewall like the Juniper 5GT (previously Netscreen)

                      The Linksys, Netgear, US Robotic routers are also good, I use a Linksys at home and it's great.

                      Regards,
                      Elie

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                      • Adis
                        MURCer
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 546

                        #12
                        I'm using Sygate Personal Firewall Pro and never get any problems with it

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                        • Mcollector
                          MURCer
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 151

                          #13
                          BlackICE.
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                          • Mcollector
                            MURCer
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 151

                            #14
                            But dedicated h/w firewalls are best.
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                            • leech
                              Super MURCer
                              • Oct 1999
                              • 1918

                              #15
                              I have a router, then a Linux server behind that router, (which is using Shorewall/Iptables) and behind that is the rest of my network. I think I'm pretty safe here Never had any of those nasty virii that affect your PC as soon as you plug it into the net.... in fact, I've never gotten a virus unless it's something I downloaded just to see if it IS a virus. And just to be on the even safer side, I use Linux for all my important things, I only use Windows for playing games.

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