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  • Fat Tone
    Super MURCer
    • Aug 1999
    • 7579

    #16
    Yup, its a simple

    supply
    |
    timer
    |
    stat
    |
    return

    with thumping great contacts and blue sparks sometimes
    FT.

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    • cjolley
      Super MURCer
      • Aug 1999
      • 7672

      #17
      Originally posted by Fat Tone
      Yup, its a simple

      with thumping great contacts and blue sparks sometimes
      I'll just bet.
      I'd be interested to see that system start up an air conditioning compressor.
      Chuck
      秋音的爸爸

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      • Fat Tone
        Super MURCer
        • Aug 1999
        • 7579

        #18
        hehe. I image there is a relay or two in there somewhere. And probably a soft-start for the compy.
        FT.

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        • cjolley
          Super MURCer
          • Aug 1999
          • 7672

          #19
          Originally posted by Gurm
          I'm not so fond of the computer-operated one. It's harder to just... nudge the heat up.

          Then again, I'm not fond of the manual one upstairs.

          Maybe I'll switch 'em!

          *sigh*
          If your computer one is a Honeywell, like most people's are, throw it in the trash and get a Rite-Temp.

          We put up with that up-one-degree = oven, down-one-degree = freezer thing for years.

          I finally got fed up and rolled the dice on a $50 Rite-Temp.
          It made a world of difference!
          Now set it up one and it gets a little warmer, down one and it gets a little cooler.
          Wish I'd done it years ago. sigh...
          Chuck
          秋音的爸爸

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          • cjolley
            Super MURCer
            • Aug 1999
            • 7672

            #20
            Originally posted by Fat Tone
            hehe. I image there is a relay or two in there somewhere. And probably a soft-start for the compy.
            Gas or Electric heat?
            We have gas heat, and I pictured a direct connection to the gas valve and the electric igniter, and fan. Which is at least concevable.
            I suppose a direct connected heating element would be even worse than an AC compressor
            Chuck
            秋音的爸爸

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            • Paddy
              Super MURCer
              • Mar 2000
              • 6067

              #21
              Just a thought:

              My boiler has a thermostat to regulate the water output.
              My radiators are thermostatically controlled.

              Why do I need a wall thermostat?
              The Welsh support two teams when it comes to rugby. Wales of course, and anyone else playing England

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              • degrub
                MURCer
                • Jan 2004
                • 882

                #22
                Both of those control the supply side of the system. The wall thermostat measures the air + wall temperature and creates the "demand" signal for the system.

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                • Paddy
                  Super MURCer
                  • Mar 2000
                  • 6067

                  #23
                  do the radiator thermostats not function as a 'demand'?
                  The Welsh support two teams when it comes to rugby. Wales of course, and anyone else playing England

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                  • degrub
                    MURCer
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 882

                    #24
                    yes they do, however, they only respond to the temperature of the water in the radiator ( and the temperature of the radiator metal in the immediate ). Very effecient at extracting all of the heat possible from the water - not a very high heat transfer rate though. Only indirectly to the air temperature in the room. The radiators transfer heat two ways - by air passing over the pipes (small) and by direct radiation (warm body transfers heat to a cold body) usually much larger .

                    If you want to get more overall heat transfer to the room, you either need more radiator area or air movement to replace warmed air with cold next to the tubes.

                    THe only thing i can think now that a wall thermostat would do for you is to raise the water temperature ( and thus the direct radiation to the room) in response to cold room air, subject to pressure limitations in your boiler system. Otherwise you could remove the radiator thermostats and go to a circulation system, but that gets really complicated balancing the hydraulic distribution and would only improve the heat transfer by keeping the time averaged temperature of the water in the tubes higher.
                    Last edited by degrub; 12 March 2006, 11:42.

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                    • gt40
                      This space for rent
                      • Sep 1999
                      • 3973

                      #25
                      I could be tricked into making a cover for it, for the right motivation
                      It would have to be aluminum, but would buff up pretty nice.
                      Yeah, well I'm gonna build my own lunar space lander! With blackjack aaaaannd Hookers! Actually, forget the space lander, and the blackjack. Ahhhh forget the whole thing!

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                      • Paddy
                        Super MURCer
                        • Mar 2000
                        • 6067

                        #26
                        Cheers for the offer mate, but i am sure that would be a lot of work.
                        I'll stick with the cheap plastic one for now....
                        The Welsh support two teams when it comes to rugby. Wales of course, and anyone else playing England

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