Apple releases official WinXP on Mac solution (BootCamp)

[The PIT]

I wonder if there will be an OS X for a pc. Good for the Market if they did and I wonder if they've done a deal with Microshaft now that XP runs on Intel Macs.

Give vours writers a challenge.

[Jessterw]

Well technically speaking the Mac is now a 'PC', but I doubt that we'll see OS X released for generic beige boxes anytime soon. For Apple, there is little value in doing so.

[cjolley]

And a huge amount of headach writting thousands of new drivers.

[Nowhere]

Technically speaking...Mac was always a PC

[Jessterw]

Shhh... don't say that. You might wake the zealots

[KeiFront]

Now if only someone had a Mac so they can install it and run some benchies, like 3DMark2003-5-6 and then post their results and specs.

http://forum.osx86project.org/index....44&#entry89644

[Technoid]

And a huge amount of headach writting thousands of new drivers.

This is one if the things that Really annoyes me in the "will apple release for generic x86" discussions.....

Apple doesent have to write thousands new drivers, cause MS most certinly never wrote "thousands of drivers" for any of their OS

They just have to write a dosen generic drivers just like MS did.

the rest of it was written by the HW manufactors!!

Examples:

Win 3.11 only had generic for my then PC, everything else I had to BBS.

Win95 didnt recognise enything beyond generic suport to show the desktop, rest I had to FTP each HW manufactor.

Win 98 did include drivers for the computer I had when got W95 but not a single one for the computer at that time, yet again I had to visit the HW manufactors sites (intel etc etc)

Windows 2k actually had drivers for my then mobo (wow) but still I had to download almost every driver I needed...

See the pattern??

Now IF apple did release OSX for PC they would have a tight HCL (just like MS has for their OS's) if your devices isnt in there, tough luck, go ask the manufactor to write a driver

[Nowhere]

Well, continuing the pattern: WinXP & 2k3 come mostly with every driver normal/typical user might need...so they're used to it, and there's no turning back form doing this that way.

[Jessterw]

Apple would only have to worry about making OS X run on the millions of possible hardware configurations that go well beyond simple device drivers.

Yeah, it's a damn cushy position to be in not having to do so, but I think we can all readily see that it keeps OS X as stable as it is. Nevermind that it gives Apple the ability to quickly obsolete any hardware/technologies they no longer see as viable or serving to the future of the platform.

[Technoid]

Well, continuing the pattern: WinXP & 2k3 come mostly with every driver normal/typical user might need...so they're used to it, and there's no turning back form doing this that way.

If your computer is old or has HW that the generic drivers understands

The biggest diff in XP is that it has a really good generic vidcard driver.

On every new computer I build I have to pop the cd from the manufactor to load the drivers.

And its definitly rarer event that I dont have to hunt for drivers when I have to reinstall a computer that comes with XP (ie: has an XP sticker glued on it) than not.

Or in other words: The horse is dead, kicking it wont help

[lowlifecat]

Oh yes it is!

x2 !!!

now i'm wondering, can you use regular 2k/xp drivers on that, or do you need 2k/xp "mac" drivers?

[Jessterw]

Well there are the drivers that are specific to the particular Mac model being installed on and then there are drivers for externals devices 3rd party vendors like Logitech, MS, etc.

Boot Camp involves only those drivers that belong to the former group. For the latter I would assume one would still need to have the Windows drivers.

[cjolley]

This is one if the things that Really annoyes me in the "will apple release for generic x86" discussions.....

Apple doesent have to write thousands new drivers, cause MS most certinly never wrote "thousands of drivers" for any of their OS

They just have to write a dosen generic drivers just like MS did.

the rest of it was written by the HW manufactors!!

...

Now IF apple did release OSX for PC they would have a tight HCL (just like MS has for their OS's) if your devices isnt in there, tough luck, go ask the manufactor to write a driver

HAHAHAHA

Apple is a HARDWARE COMPANY!
Never forget that.
They wanted vertical control, and that's what they know.
That's why they lost the race.
Think they'll change now?

[Technoid]

HAHAHAHA

Apple is a HARDWARE COMPANY!
Never forget that.
They wanted vertical control, and that's what they know.
That's why they lost the race.
Think they'll change now?

okay, you are seriously missing my point here....

I'm not saying that they will (I don't think they ever will) release OSX for generic X86, frankly I dont care since I don't even like OSX :devius:

What I mean is that the idea that MS is sitting around and writing drivers for every HW (they dont even write for all their own) is wrong, and subsequently the idea that Apple would have to write thousands of drivers for every PC HW is equally wrong

[Nowhere]

Open idea? So what are you doing on Windows instead on GNU/Linux? (sorry, I'm temporarily brainwashed, I've read article by RMS )