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  • VideoHead
    mini MURCer
    • Dec 1999
    • 5

    #1

    CeleronVSPIII

    Trying to save some money.

    I see the new drivers for the G400 have been optimized for Celeron systems.

    Is there much of a performance difference between a Celeron366 overclocked to 550 VS a PIII 600? I'm not a Quake player, mostly Descent and space sims.

    Any information or URLS pointing to reviews would be appreciated.

    Thanks,

  • paulcs
    Super MURCer
    • Jan 2000
    • 3098

    #2
    The TurboGL has been optimized for Celeron's and PII's. If you're running unsupported games, and most games are, the optimizations shouldn't make a bit of difference.

    I don't know about the specific games you're playing, but I suspect more and more games will begin taking advantage of KNI.

    In addition, a PIII 600 should outperform a PIII 550. I've run 500 MHz PIII's at 560, and my PIII 600 is faster.

    Paul
    paulcs@flashcom.net

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    • VideoHead
      mini MURCer
      • Dec 1999
      • 5

      #3
      Whats KNI ?

      Games I'll be running
      Descent 3
      FreeSpace 2
      Some Auto Racing Games
      Maybe some Xwing like game.

      I know there's a slight performance difference between 550 or 600 mhz, but I'm talking about human noticable differences in performance. If its a 2-3 frame rate difference, big deal. If its a 10-15, yea that would be a concern.

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      • Pede
        mini MURCer
        • Dec 1999
        • 16

        #4
        KNI = Katmai New Instructions or better known as SSE.

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        • franksch3
          MURCer
          • Aug 1999
          • 180

          #5
          Hi guys,

          I have benchmarked a PII 450 MHz against a Celeron @ 500 MHz. At all FPU tests my PII simply scored about 3% higher than the Celeron which is clocked 5% higher than the PII. Seems that the PII core is a little bit more efficient or that a smaller cache at full CPU speed isn't more efficient than a bigger cache at half CPU speed.

          And the PIII is another story. KNI is a extension of the normal x86 instruction set with some instructions which speed up multimedia related things. The instructions used for 3D calculations are around 2 times faster than doing those tasks without using the KNI instructions.

          However, in real life the efficiency is lower and is about 50% faster than without KNI. I benchmarked my PII 450 against a PIII 450 using 3DMark 2000. My PII scored 86 and the PIII scored 128 in the CPU test.

          Frank

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          • Livius
            MURCer
            • Oct 1999
            • 185

            #6
            3DMark 2000 is a typical P3/3DNow! optimized product. But I guess in most apps you won't see a significant improvement over a Celeron unless the app is optimized for the P3-specific extensions.

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            Celeron 500, Soyo 7IZB+ (socket 370), 96MB PC100, G400Max, Vortex2, and two vintage 17" pieces - Hitachi CM 1711 and Iiyama MF-8317

            Asus A7V, Duron 600@900, 192MB PC133@100, G200, Guillemot MUSE, etc.

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