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  • red2
    MURCer
    • Aug 1999
    • 102

    #1

    30% Performance DIVE with 5.21

    I was expecting around a 25% performance boost and I lost around 10 fps on Quake II.
    WTF? Did someone release the wrong driver?
    It does look better though.
  • Ant
    Administrator
    • Aug 1999
    • 2375

    #2
    Did you use the uninstaller or just upgrade? I have had similar problems when upgrading beta versions but doing a thorough uninstall fixed things.

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    • www.3dGameMan.com
      mini MURCer
      • Aug 1999
      • 17

      #3

      What do you mean it fixed things?

      Are they faster, more stable, please explain, because they have caused me nothing but trouble where the v5.15 was ok.

      Grrrr.

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      • Ant
        Administrator
        • Aug 1999
        • 2375

        #4
        As I said when upgrading beta versions I had seen dips in porformance when an increase was expected. Performing a full uninstall then installing the new version fixed things ie an increase in speed was observed.

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        • DarkSyd
          MURCer
          • Aug 1999
          • 392

          #5
          Cripes, maybe at some point they'll think to include a proper uninstaller WITH the drivers.


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          • Ant
            Administrator
            • Aug 1999
            • 2375

            #6
            Well they did have an uninstaller with PD 4.x, they removed it in 5.x to conform to new driver guidelines laid down by M$.

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            • AirBoy
              mini MURCer
              • Aug 1999
              • 16

              #7
              The Q2 numbers are lower because Vsync is Enabled. Anyone know the registry entry to disable it?

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              • Nuno
                Super MURCer
                • Aug 1999
                • 2155

                #8
                I used the matrox unninstalled to wipe our 5.13. I am not getting a performance decrease, but the results aren´t brilliant thought. More or less the same.

                I think Vsynch can be disabled in both q2 and q3 by turning "sync every frame" in video options to "no". Correct me if I´m wrong.

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                • AirBoy
                  mini MURCer
                  • Aug 1999
                  • 16

                  #9
                  Vsync in Q2 and Vsync for the OpenGL drivers are different things.

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                  • Manex
                    mini MURCer
                    • Aug 1999
                    • 84

                    #10
                    Well, I ran the Q2 crusher demo with "synch every frame" on and off and got the same framerate with both settings - 20.5 fps (non OC). I'm not sure whether that switch actually works or not. I'd like to try a reg hack if I can find one.

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                    • Ant
                      Administrator
                      • Aug 1999
                      • 2375

                      #11
                      Try this: in GL, especially Q3, you can use r_swapinterval 1 for on and r_swapinterval 0 for off

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                      • Smiff
                        MURCer
                        • Aug 1999
                        • 261

                        #12
                        I have an idea whats going on with everyone whining that they got slower with the new drivers... the G400 Tweak "D3D Vsync" option *does* effect Quake2 and other OpenGL games, at least on my machine, and it makes a *big* difference.

                        Smiff

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                        • agallag
                          Super MURCer
                          • Aug 1999
                          • 3201

                          #13
                          Well, 5.21 doesn't fix anything for me. I'm not "frames per second" junky, so that doesn't bother me. However, the Re-Volt demo still freezes, and expendable still wont launch (even after a format and reinstall of win98se). Crap.

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                          • red2
                            MURCer
                            • Aug 1999
                            • 102

                            #14
                            Yes I did indeed use the un installer, I used it an uninstalled the drivers, and installed the new ones, I did this three times, I did a setup installation and then I did a manual installation of the drivers twice, made no difference. Disabling the vsync gives a 2 fps frame boost. Am I missing something? What type of boost did you get Ant?

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                            Abit BH6
                            128MB ECC PC100
                            sblive value
                            scsi
                            g400 oem sh 16 mb

                            Thanks for any help in advance.

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