I had AGP 4x enabled, now its 1x - WHY????

[High_Jumbllama]

ALBPM,
If you do not have 256 and you try to run UT or Unreal with a 256 meg aperture, your system will chunk due to swapping the AGP memory to the harddisk. What a shame that I will soon have 512MB. Video editing and for high end games in the future. Athlon forever!

P.S. HP, Gateway, and Compaq are going to use Athlons in their upcoming major lines. As soon as Intel comes out with it's 850 AMD is coming out with a 1Ghz. Sorry to waste space with this here, but I just cannot resist posting it. The Intel monopoly is coming down.

[andrei]

Maybe Intel would've had more luck continuing to make video cards then promoting rambus.

[Gurm]

High_Jumbo-mumbo-person:

I agree that Intel is hurt, hardcore, by the failure of RamBust and the i820.141592...

But...

Unless I missed something, the new Athlon chipsets are almost as patch-happy as the previous AMD chipsets, which puts them squarely out of the hands of regular users. I kinda LIKE it that way, makes the rest of us more "eleet". But Intel makes its bucks on brand-recognition and getting into the homes of millions...

- Gurm

ObMatroxHardware: Umm... so have we solved this guy's problem yet?

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[Kristian]

Gurm (and others)

What's all this rant and rave over the i820, have I missed something crucial, AGAIN?

/Kristian

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[Gurm]

Nah, the i820 is buggy and unless you have RDRAM the performance is sub-BX levels. And RDRAM is so flaky and absurdly expensive that it's hardly worth it.

- Gurm

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[Kristian]

Well....well, thats just dandy isn't it?????????

****in lame, punk ass, salesman-son-of-a-bitch. IM GONNA RIP YOUR LIVER OUT AND FEED MY DUCKS WITH IT. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

eeerm, sorry

Its always something isn't it - one tries to stay updated with all info. Bla bla bla AGP4x someone said, bla bla CAMINIO has AGP4x.
And then when you have killed your wallet, read all recensions you THINK your home free but NOOOOOOOOOO!

Just checked up with our retailer, 128 MB DRAM is about $625 VAT excluded.

Thats...just...sick!

Kristian
Mad, screwed and broke.

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[Goc]

bwahahahhaha.... LOL LOL LOL

Sorry for laughing so much Kristian, but the duck remark rolled me over...

I know it sucks when you get screwed into something but, hey... when RDRAM's prices fall down you'll be the first that will be able to use it.... In 3 or 4 years!! LOL

Sorry Kristian, It's not you... it's me

[RoGuE]

If he wants to use RDRAM he will need a new mobo, as the Asus P3C-2000 has DIMM sockets only.





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[Kristian]

ROGUE

That struck me as pretty strange, why would INTEL optimize the Camino boards for RDRAM and then ASUS makes a Camino board for DIMMS??????

Isn't that....kinda stupid?

Or is the confusion on the market so extensive so that even the manufacturers screw up?

Regards

Kristian

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[mj12]

IMHO RDRAM is dead. I guess we will have to see what micron does. As for the i820, tomshardware has a nice comparision of the bx vs i820 vs i840. I'm personally thinking of jumping onto the i840 when it is widely available. I have a PIII500 with an abitbx6r2 128mb pc100 and I have a friend that wants my proc and ram. So I am looking at either the athlon/k7m or coppermine/i840 with pc133. I'm actually leaning towards the coppermine/i840 right now.

[Meek]

Yesh, you have missed someting Kristian. While striving for perfection with your Camino mainboard you have installed PC100 DIMMs on it. With SDRAM all 820 boards are a bit slower than BX boards. You should have RDRAM if you aim at the perfection level (that is, if you manage to find any, and if you have the money... )

At least you have the very useful AGP 4x...

M.

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[RoGuE]

Hi Kristian,

Basically, Intel realised that RDRAM/Rambus would (a) not be ready in time for the release of the i820 boards, and (b) it would be far too expensive upon initial release. So they devised a way of making the i820/Camino compatible with PC100 SDRAM by adding a memory controller hub which acts as a translator. Unfortunately it is limited to 100MHz, regardless of what the CPU (FSB) is set too - hence slower than BX in most tests.

Also the Asus P3C2000 (according to reviews) doesn't even handle SDRAM very well, people seem to have great trouble in using more than one of the DIMM slots.

It is not my intention to rubbish this motherboard, as I have not had chance to use one of these yet.

Chris.


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[Kristian]

Well I don't know about other peoples problems, but the board is very stable. I have 2 banks of SDRAM and during the 2 months I hd it, it has never crashed for me. No problems that could be related to the memory onboard anyway.

When you mean that that DIMMS don't handle more than 100 MHz I guess that you talk about that the DIMMS wont follow an overclock if I understood things right. And also that would mean that I can't run 133 MHz ram's also?

Im starting to get very tired and weary of this crap. I have always been unlucky with my hardware buys. It always seems like I buy the wrong things. Soon someone will tell me that the G400 Max's memorybanks are actually made of Playdough^© and will melt 2 months after first initialized.

Regards

Kristian

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[Meek]

Well, Kristian, if it works for you you are probably OK with it. And when it works, do not touch it. (Never touch a working system).

M.

[RoGuE]

When you mean that that DIMMS don't handle more than 100 MHz I guess that you talk about that the DIMMS wont follow an overclock if I understood things right. And also that would mean that I can't run 133 MHz ram's also?

PC133 RAM will work, but will operate at 100MHz.

Soon someone will tell me that the G400 Max's memorybanks are actually made of Playdough© and will melt 2 months after first initialized.

LOL



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