G800???

[GT98]

Hey whats the chances of Nivida fubaring the XGPU for the X-Box? If they screw that one up they are gonna lose alot of face .


Scott

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[Jammrock]

M$ ordered a chip downgrade from the one nVidia wanted to use, because it would cost too much. It will be interesting to see what the X-box will be able to do.

Still no news about my G800...the bastards.

Jammrock

[Targon]

I think the reason so many of us have been waiting on the G800 is NOT so much because it's going to be an amazing card, it's because the G450 as it stands, is slower than the G400 MAX. Give us a card that's 25 percent faster than the MAX, and we'd buy it and be content to wait until the next generation comes out. G450=.18 ver of G400 with some minor additions. G800 will be the chip that will be the "next generation".

Now, this is speculation, but could it be that Matrox will hold on the release until they make a card that works properly in OpenGL? When my G400 MAX still can't run Baldur's Gate 2 as well as the game plays in software mode, there's a problem. When people who run OpenGL based programs run into problems with their applications because of poor driver support, that hurts Matrox more than the lack of a new card for games. All I know is my G400 MAX, while fast enough for most things, has been getting a bit old. I've upgraded my motherboard and CPU twice so far, and it's looking like it's time to upgrade to one of those nice 1.2GHz Athlon setups. I'd LIKE to know that hardware acceleration will help me, but at the rate that CPU technology is advancing, I may never need the acceleration features of the G800 by the time it comes out.

[High_Jumbllama]

Originally posted by Jammrock:
I plan on upgrading soon and if those bumm lookers don't have their 'G800' equivelant card out by then, Matrox will lose a customer. Unless their card is just gawd aweful fast...but we all know that ain't happening.

Jammrock

Matrox has been losing customers for some time.

[dZeus]

well... how do yo define 'losing customers'? I don't expect matrox customers to buy a G400 _and_ a G450, because those two are very similar and one of them is targeted for a very specific userbase (OEM). I would say you can't speak of Matrox losing customers until matrox sells a lot less next gen. products than it sold G400 boards.

So the main problem is that Matrox has less different products that it can sell than the competition does (for each targetet user-group)

[High_Jumbllama]

Perhaps I should have said something like " " ahh nevermind. Sorry dZeus. I am wrong.

[rylan]

Targon:
I hope Matrox doesn't want until they can product a card w/drivers that does well in OpenGL. Not to be bashing them, but its kinda obvious that their driver department has some big problems with optimising for OpenGL calls. As you mentioned BG2, while it looks amazing, also runs better in software emulation mode than in OGL on my MAX. I mean, whats up with that?