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  • MetalCartman
    MURCer
    • May 2001
    • 229

    #16
    Dunno, but I'll tell ya when I'm back from Cebit!
    main system: P4 Northwood 2.0 @ 2.5GHz, Asus P4PE (LAN + Audio onboard), 512MB Infineon PC333 CL2.5, Sapphire/BBA Radeon 9500@9700 128MB (hardmodded), IBM 100GB ATA-100, 17" Belinea (crappy), and some other toys...ADSL (1,5mbit/s down, 256kbit/s up...sweeeeeet!)

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    • xbnmx
      MURCer
      • Feb 2002
      • 110

      #17
      :'(

      The G400MAX uses 200mhz memmory, which means all the G550 got to compensate for the jump from 128-bits to 640bits is 133mhz increase in memory clock, should the G550 have a 128-bit bus it would fly, as I read the G400 MAX out performs Voooo 3 3000s and TNT2 Ultras, the G550 would bring us acceptable game performance, why did they criple the bus, just to lower the price? Do you think Matrox's next card will be a G550 with a larger bus and other minor enhancements, or a new chip architecture? And why do they only use 32megs of ram, can the cards not handle 64megs?
      I'd like to Glide my T-Buffered foor up nVidia's Transformed and Lighted ass...

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      • Tempest
        Super MURCer
        • Mar 2001
        • 1111

        #18
        Re: :'(

        why did they criple the bus, just to lower the price?
        Yes, the G550 was to be the G800... Until time or company strategy decided otherwise.
        Do you think Matrox's next card will be a G550 with a larger bus and other minor enhancements, or a new chip architecture?
        A new chip architecture.
        And why do they only use 32megs of ram, can the cards not handle 64megs?
        Probably yes, but what would be the point? The G550 is a "value" solution, remember?
        And do you tink Matrox will show us anything new at Cebit?
        Matrox Graphics won't be attending Cebit.

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        • xbnmx
          MURCer
          • Feb 2002
          • 110

          #19
          ...

          There listed as attending on the Cebit website, and everyone has been talking about how it's a good sign that they WILL be there this year, aswell as at the Game Developers Confrence.
          I'd like to Glide my T-Buffered foor up nVidia's Transformed and Lighted ass...

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          • Tempest
            Super MURCer
            • Mar 2001
            • 1111

            #20
            Really? With Cebit's exhibitor search I only found the Matrox Video department, and Matrox Graphics has this press release that says they will not have a public presence at Cebit. Dunno about the "closed doors" thing, though...
            But you're right about the GDC... It's still in their events calendar: http://www.matrox.com/mga/media_center/events/home.cfm

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            • xbnmx
              MURCer
              • Feb 2002
              • 110

              #21
              Welll...

              Your right, the attending party is Matrox Video, does this mean we have quit some time to wait for a new card?
              I'd like to Glide my T-Buffered foor up nVidia's Transformed and Lighted ass...

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              • Tempest
                Super MURCer
                • Mar 2001
                • 1111

                #22
                xbnmx, Soon™ you have asked all the "MURC newbie" questions
                Don't think too much on the trade shows and stuff... They will announce new technology when it's done. When is that, you ask? The answer is... Soon™
                Both Haig and VigilAnt have let us understand that if all goes well, it may be even sooner than you think.

                But we must remember that the time from tech announcement to store shelf will (probably) take months.

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                • xbnmx
                  MURCer
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 110

                  #23
                  Ahh

                  Many thanks Master Gr****opper.
                  I'd like to Glide my T-Buffered foor up nVidia's Transformed and Lighted ass...

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                  • MK
                    MURCer
                    • Sep 1999
                    • 557

                    #24
                    Would it help to play around with the ram timings to achieve higher speeds ? Or do less agressive ram settings lower the performance too much ?

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                    • xbnmx
                      MURCer
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 110

                      #25
                      Ya...

                      Adjusting the ram timings worked on 5500s...
                      I'd like to Glide my T-Buffered foor up nVidia's Transformed and Lighted ass...

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                      • Greebe
                        Super MURCer
                        • Aug 1999
                        • 8555

                        #26
                        You can't compare 3dfx cards OC and how to with Matrox's offerings
                        "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

                        "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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                        • MK
                          MURCer
                          • Sep 1999
                          • 557

                          #27
                          So, what about the performance decrease ? Anyone with experiences ?

                          MK
                          <font size="1">
                          Celeron II 700 @ 1,1 GHz
                          ASUS CUSL2-C, Bios 1009 final
                          Alpha 6035MFC, 60 -> 80mm adapter
                          2 x 80mm Papst Cooler 19/12dB
                          256 MB PC133 Crucial 7E (CAS2)
                          Maxtor Diamond MAX VL40
                          ATI Radeon 8500 64MB @ Catalyst 3.0
                          Hauppauge WinTV TV-Card
                          Iiyama Vision Master Pro 400
                          Plustek Optic Pro U12B
                          HP Deskjet 959C
                          Plantronics LS1 Headset
                          all on W2k Professional SP2
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                          • Greebe
                            Super MURCer
                            • Aug 1999
                            • 8555

                            #28
                            That depends on whether your card uses SDRAM or SGRAM and how well it specifically performs. ie, in some cases it's better to use slower timings and a higher clock than to use agressive timings and a lower OC.
                            "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

                            "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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                            • xbnmx
                              MURCer
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 110

                              #29
                              /

                              Which is SD and which is SG?
                              I'd like to Glide my T-Buffered foor up nVidia's Transformed and Lighted ass...

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                              • Tempest
                                Super MURCer
                                • Mar 2001
                                • 1111

                                #30
                                Most of the G400 cards are SGRAM, the only exception that I know is some OEM G400 cards. True MAX cards are always SGRAM. The memory can be identified either by looking at it (SDRAM has pins on 2 edges of the memory chips, SGRAM on all four sides) or by looking at the model number of the card - if there is a D after the part indicating amount of memory (for example, G4+MA16DG) then it's SDRAM.

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