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  • xbnmx
    MURCer
    • Feb 2002
    • 110

    #1

    Matrox and Anti-Aliasing

    We recently developed a program that (in software) allows for 16x 3dfx style anti-aliasing (in Windows NT/2000/XP, do to memory limitations in 9x/ME we developed an 8x version), right now it's simply an operational demmo, but this week it will be capable of being run on screen shots, and able to be applied to games later this month. After that we'll begin customizing it to run on specefic chipsets, and I placed a Matrox program at the top of the list, post your toughts here, I'll post a link to the FTP where you can download the demo in a sec...
    I'd like to Glide my T-Buffered foor up nVidia's Transformed and Lighted ass...
  • roadie
    MURCer
    • Aug 2000
    • 364

    #2
    nice one, but do you think any matrox cards will be powerful enough to do this in software?
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    • Novdid
      Super MURCer
      • Nov 2000
      • 2609

      #3
      I don't think they are powerfull enough to do it hardware either...

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      • Venturer
        MURCer
        • Aug 2000
        • 208

        #4
        Do you know Matrox drivers can just emulate antialiasing in software (only in D3d mode)?
        Antialiasing is not enabled by default in the drivers (high performance loss). The only way is to do it through the software if it allows.
        So is your software layer capable to do antialiasing also for OpenGL?
        Last edited by Venturer; 4 March 2002, 04:29.
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        • TdB
          Super MURCer
          • Jan 2001
          • 1238

          #5
          I recently tried a flightsim from microsoft, i think it was "combat flightsimulator" or something, i don´t quite renember.
          you could enable fullscene-antialiacing, and it actually worked on a g400max
          I think microsoft made a software-fallback or just enabled edge-antialiacing instead or something, and performance was actually not that bad, 20fps-15fps or something in 1024*768*32, and yes i could SEE the difference!
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          • Maggi
            Super MURCer
            • Jan 2000
            • 5057

            #6
            just to straighten out some facts:

            G200 does AA in hardware and so does the G400, if the app calls for it ...

            For example run 3D Winbench 99 or newer and have a look at their AA tests.
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            • TdB
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              • Jan 2001
              • 1238

              #7
              i knew it could do egde-aa, but i didn´t knew it could do fsaa.
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              • xbnmx
                MURCer
                • Feb 2002
                • 110

                #8
                You see...

                I beleive the Matrox cards do do hardware aa, but this is 3dfx aa (the highest quality still toda), and it's 16x(by 3dfx terms, 32x standerd). And it dosn't have to do with your videocard's power, it's all about procesor power, SMP platforms are the ideal location for this, you'll have an xmhz AA procesor, similair to 3dfx's geometry assist for T&L...
                I'd like to Glide my T-Buffered foor up nVidia's Transformed and Lighted ass...

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                • Greebe
                  Super MURCer
                  • Aug 1999
                  • 8555

                  #9
                  None of Matrox's cards have ever had hardware AA.
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                  • xbnmx
                    MURCer
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 110

                    #10
                    Oh

                    Well now they'll have even better software AA...
                    I'd like to Glide my T-Buffered foor up nVidia's Transformed and Lighted ass...

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                    • Greebe
                      Super MURCer
                      • Aug 1999
                      • 8555

                      #11
                      I'm still waitin for you to post that promised link...
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                      • xbnmx
                        MURCer
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 110

                        #12
                        The links...

                        Heres the 8x one for 9x/ME users: www.erie.net/~fartalk/aliasing9x.exe

                        Heres the 16x one for 2000/XP users: www.erie.net/~fartalk/aliasingxp.exe
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                        • Maggi
                          Super MURCer
                          • Jan 2000
                          • 5057

                          #13
                          you sure, Greebe ?

                          afai remember Karina6 (remember her ?) explained, both could do 2x fsaa by rendering internally at double resolution, blurring it a bit and then scale down for output.

                          But it could also be that my brain has gotten a little foggy over the years ...
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                          • Greebe
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                            • Aug 1999
                            • 8555

                            #14
                            Yeah Maggs I remember her... got heckled to death and left the forums over the facts she brought us about the G200 ICD fiasco... she was correct and those whom heckled her were flatout wrong.

                            But to date we have yet to see anything in the drivers supporting AA.
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                            • Maggi
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                              • Jan 2000
                              • 5057

                              #15
                              but how come that AA is working in ZD's 3D Winbench ?
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