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  • Supernaut
    mini MURCer
    • Jul 2001
    • 34

    #1

    BAD parhelia image problems, reputation damaging!

    this is from the matrox forum



    i was wondering if anyone here has been having similar experiences.

    The topic is
    horizontal disturbs in video signal in 3d mode

    thats a big deal!
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  • UberLord
    MURCer
    • Jul 2002
    • 233

    #2
    Yeah - I get that as well.

    It's a problem for me as I sometime run a game like UT in a window whilst chatting in IRC at the same time.

    Hurts the old eyes aftera a while. At least they have acknowledged it and are looking into it. I really hope they can fix this via a driver or BIOS update
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    • CHHAS
      Super MURCer
      • Jan 2000
      • 1223

      #3
      Ouch.
      "That's right fool! Now I'm a flying talking donkey!"

      P4 2.66, 512 mb PC2700, ATI Radeon 9000, Seagate Barracude IV 80 gb, Acer Al 732 17" TFT

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      • OasisPlaces
        mini MURCer
        • Oct 2002
        • 40

        #4
        From what I read on the matrox forums it seems they released
        the card knowing about the problem and don't really care to fix it..
        just complain, get a refund.. buy a 9000pro it's twice as fast
        and has real GL support.. and you still will have some money left over!

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        • mutz
          Super MURCer
          • Aug 2002
          • 1068

          #5
          ...'n who do you work for, or get goodies from?
          How can you possibly take anything seriously?
          Who cares?

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          • thop
            Super MURCer
            • Mar 2001
            • 2536

            #6
            buy a 9000pro it's twice as fast
            not on the planet i live on.
            no matrox, no matroxusers.

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            • K6-III
              Super MURCer
              • Dec 2000
              • 2253

              #7
              Have this problem as well....very noticable on the DX-07 test in SPEC Viewperf 7.0 with VSync disabled...
              Let us return to the moon, to stay!!!

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              • Supernaut
                mini MURCer
                • Jul 2001
                • 34

                #8
                a post...

                Hi agiovanni
                We are aware of banding artifacts when intensive 3D applications are run
                in a window with a bright background.

                It may get addressed in future generations of our product.

                FUTURE GENERATIONS!!

                Also, I thought I remembered reading a post that said the official stance from matrox is that this is normal behavior. I think they deleted that post, I dont know what this means exactly.

                Anyway, does anyone have a card that does not exhibit this behavior? I was saving up for a Parhelia but this definitely makes it out of the question , heres wishin it gets fixed...
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                • thop
                  Super MURCer
                  • Mar 2001
                  • 2536

                  #9
                  the post wasn't deleted. at least they are honest about it, which of course doesn't help those who already bought a parhelia, but still. i think this is "by design" and every parhelia suffers from this.
                  no matrox, no matroxusers.

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                  • 103er-Fan
                    MURCer
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 320

                    #10
                    Maybe you can return your old, faulty card and get a new one?
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                    • mutz
                      Super MURCer
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 1068

                      #11
                      ...maybe look at things in proportion? How much will this come up in the everyday life of a Parhelia, and how big a deal is it?
                      How can you possibly take anything seriously?
                      Who cares?

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                      • az
                        Moderator
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 9336

                        #12
                        Maybe we should all wait and see how this turns out?

                        I believe having read something that this will be fixed within the next two drivers..

                        AZ
                        There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                        • Haig
                          Moderator
                          • Aug 1999
                          • 1273

                          #13
                          I think they deleted that post, I dont know what this means exactly.

                          If that is true, it wouldn't make sense to leave that thread running

                          I believe having read something that this will be fixed within the next two drivers..

                          Not really. Last 2 posts of that thread explains where we are currently at with this issue.

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                          • K6-III
                            Super MURCer
                            • Dec 2000
                            • 2253

                            #14
                            Thanks HAIG, looking forward to resolution of this issue...
                            Let us return to the moon, to stay!!!

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                            • luni
                              MURCer
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 110

                              #15
                              Agh damn, I thought this was a problem with my setup only, maybe some cables or something, now I see its well known and no fix is coming in foreseable future

                              BTW, it happens in windowed and non-windowd 3d using applications. One of later games which are afflicted by it a lot is NOLF2 with all its bright backgrounds.

                              This is terrible, I hope there is some kind od fix coming, cannot understand that any company could brand that as "normal behaviour" - if it was normal it should be put on box in bright red letters so people know before buying

                              Very disapointed here.
                              Last edited by luni; 6 October 2002, 05:30.

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