VigilAnt Rant and Some Observations

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  • Tempest
    Super MURCer
    • Mar 2001
    • 1111

    #196
    Originally posted by thop
    If Matrox replaces every P out there (or at least from everyone who notices it and complains about it) this will hurt them a lot i believe, and only brake their neck faster.
    Yeah and remember that the rumour is that they've got plenty of Parhelias in stock... Which also means that they're all ridden with the same bug(s).

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    • Evildead666
      Super MURCer
      • Mar 2002
      • 3116

      #197
      Is there a way out for M?
      With a large stock of 'broken' P's, worth a lot of cash, a client-base which is VERY unsure about its next purchase, what can they do?

      Cut as many corners as possible.

      They may be just trying to keep the company afloat, but if they really needed money, couldn't they float Matrox in the Stock Market, and get lots of cash from selling shares.
      Then again, who in their right mind today would buy Matrox shares.....the risk is way too high.

      P2 or not P2?, that is the question.....
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      • Peter Aragon
        MURCer
        • Apr 2000
        • 226

        #198
        About the legal part, wasn't there a case of someone getting epileptic seisures with the Parhelia caused by the banding? That may have made them more cautioned about bringing out a statement. Think about the possibility of lawsuits, especially over there in the US. People over there should be sued for suing unnecessarily
        Peter Aragon
        Matrox Parhelia 128 Retail, Iiyama VisionMaster Pro 454, Asus P4C800 Deluxe, Pentium IV 2.8 GHz 800 MHz FSB, Maxtor 120GB S-ATA, 512MB Mem, SB Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro, Gigaworks S750 speakers, AOpen DVD-R, Pioneer 16x DVD-106, 3COM 905C Networkcard.

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        • GNEP
          Super MURCer
          • Feb 2002
          • 5241

          #199
          Yeah but then nVidia and/or its card partners would have been sued years ago for their crappy 2d quality causing eye strain...
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          • GT98
            FanBoy
            • Aug 1999
            • 4408

            #200
            Originally posted by Sasq
            you meaning FUBAR there GT98?
            I think they've been FUBAR'ed since the G400MAX lanuch
            Why is it called tourist season, if we can't shoot at them?

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            • Pace
              Super MURCer
              • Feb 2000
              • 3414

              #201
              Are we talking about FAA or banding?

              AFAIK, FAA will cause problems, this was stated to you at the time of purchase. I don't know if drivers can fix this (I'm guessing the answer to this is known, please fill me in ).

              Banding is a problem, which was not stated, which Matrox *are* ignoring, and will continue to do so.
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              • GT98
                FanBoy
                • Aug 1999
                • 4408

                #202
                Originally posted by Evildead666

                P2 or not P2?, that is the question.....
                VigilAnt has already reported that the P2 has been canned and if you look at this post and others theres been HUGE cut backs in the MGA workforce...so much so that they are just as good as dead in my option..Wouldnt surpize me to see them Pull out of the Graphics areana and just stay with what market they own...the Video editing Division
                Why is it called tourist season, if we can't shoot at them?

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                • Faramir1966
                  MURCer
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 158

                  #203
                  The second revision of the P1 has been canned......
                  The P2 or Pitou is not......
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                  • Xplora
                    mini MURCer
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 18

                    #204
                    VigilAnt have anything new to bring us? or just worried about the massive spike in bandwidth that "official rumours" on MURC will send Ant broke?
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                    • Wombat
                      Super MURCer
                      • Aug 2000
                      • 9498

                      #205
                      Faramir, check your facts.
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                      • GT98
                        FanBoy
                        • Aug 1999
                        • 4408

                        #206
                        Originally posted by Faramir1966
                        The second revision of the P1 has been canned......
                        The P2 or Pitou is not......
                        Of course it's just your opinion, but it's not correct. The revision of parhelia is done. They can release it any time, but it won't matter much if they kill off the people who write the software and support it. They seem to be more intent on releasing another low dollar card right now, and Pitou is officially canned.

                        VigilAnt

                        There you go....I personally hold out no hope that Matrox will make anything that personally suites my needs in a GFX card.
                        Why is it called tourist season, if we can't shoot at them?

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                        • 3dfx
                          MURCer
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 697

                          #207
                          Well at this stage I think I will stick with my Parhelia as I like the card generally and I dont see much better out there for my needs I'm looking into the Geforce FX but it is very expensive and to be honest I think that the Parhelia card performs well at higher resolutions like 1600 - 1200 and therefore negating FAA 16x

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                          • Peter Aragon
                            MURCer
                            • Apr 2000
                            • 226

                            #208
                            At this point I don't trust the "facts" anymore, but then again, I can imagine it's kinda fun and amusing making things up and see others take it as facts...
                            Peter Aragon
                            Matrox Parhelia 128 Retail, Iiyama VisionMaster Pro 454, Asus P4C800 Deluxe, Pentium IV 2.8 GHz 800 MHz FSB, Maxtor 120GB S-ATA, 512MB Mem, SB Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro, Gigaworks S750 speakers, AOpen DVD-R, Pioneer 16x DVD-106, 3COM 905C Networkcard.

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                            • Faramir1966
                              MURCer
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 158

                              #209
                              @Wombat
                              Well.....thats how i undarstand what Vigilant said somewhere in this thread.......
                              But maybe i got it all wrong.... :?
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                              • Kurt
                                Super MURCer
                                • Feb 2000
                                • 1839

                                #210
                                Originally posted by GT98



                                There you go....I personally hold out no hope that Matrox will make anything that personally suites my needs in a GFX card.
                                you can never say never. if they get enough cash, they might as well get P-II from where it is. 0.13 µm is not ready anyway....so 0.09 µm is not very likely either before some time...they might just turn things around with a half-decent product...waddayaknow? it's a one-in-a-million chance but it might just work...

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