Vertex Shader 2.0 on Parhelia

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  • chmodman
    mini MURCer
    • May 2003
    • 16

    #91
    Originally posted by Indiana
    That's OK. But then you should never buy nVidia, ATI, SIS, S3, Trident again, either - because ALL OF THEM have used the exact same deceptive marketing in the past as well (and most likely will continue to do so in the future...)
    You make a good point, Matrox is not the only guilty one. But, if I had bought an FX5900 and it was not living up to its published specs, I would be on www.nvnews.net voicing my opinion. Excusing a company of shady business practice just because its industry norm doesn't sit well with me, and companies will only change if buyers voice thier legit complaints. You just can't let them off easy if the part doesn't do whats printed on the box.

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    • [GDI]Raptor
      Super MURCer
      • Jan 2001
      • 1045

      #92
      Just a question, i just saw a video-clip from Half-Life 2, an that game will be released sometime during this fall.

      I heard that Half-Life 2 use Dispelment Mapping, but does it use Vertex Shader 2.0 or other versions?

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      • Indiana
        Super MURCer
        • Mar 2000
        • 2410

        #93
        Originally posted by chmodman
        You make a good point, Matrox is not the only guilty one. But, if I had bought an FX5900 and it was not living up to its published specs, I would be on www.nvnews.net voicing my opinion. Excusing a company of shady business practice just because its industry norm doesn't sit well with me, and companies will only change if buyers voice thier legit complaints. You just can't let them off easy if the part doesn't do whats printed on the box.
        I fully agree, complaining about features that were promised but not delivered is OK.
        But I won't say that I would never buy a product of said company again as I'm aware that this is not a standpoint you can really follow through consequently - making those claims sound naive.
        Last edited by Indiana; 21 May 2003, 16:06.
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        • Amiga Blitter
          MURCer
          • Jul 2000
          • 361

          #94
          What about to send the e-mail request to obtain the beatyfull omega drivers? omega driver. Like Nvdia omega drivers and Ati Omega Drivers.

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          • Amiga Blitter
            MURCer
            • Jul 2000
            • 361

            #95
            mailtomegacorner@hotmail.com

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            • magog
              MURCer
              • Oct 2001
              • 227

              #96
              Originally posted by leech
              I completely agree with the fact that Linux drivers should be done first. VS 2.0, even when Games DO start using it, isn't going to be as common as how ...
              I'm not sure, but I thought Matrox has some people working on Win XY drivers and some OTHER people working on Linux drivers.

              Can someone confirm this?

              By the way the SciTech drivers (currently open beta 2) seem to have a good start. Several people claim, that the 2D stuff is faster than with the nVidia driver (at least the nVidia users say so).
              Hopefully the support for newer Matrox cards is comming SOON (TM).
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              • Slougi
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                • Feb 2002
                • 368

                #97
                Originally posted by magog
                I'm not sure, but I thought Matrox has some people working on Win XY drivers and some OTHER people working on Linux drivers.

                Can someone confirm this?

                By the way the SciTech drivers (currently open beta 2) seem to have a good start. Several people claim, that the 2D stuff is faster than with the nVidia driver (at least the nVidia users say so).
                Hopefully the support for newer Matrox cards is comming SOON (TM).
                Don't get me wrong, it is nice that Scitech is working on this. However, the card is already fairly expensive, extra expense is not really desirable. Also if I want a fast 2d card with good image quality I could just get a g400...
                -Slougi

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                • magog
                  MURCer
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 227

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Slougi
                  Don't get me wrong, it is nice that Scitech is working on this. However, the card is already fairly expensive, extra expense is not really desirable. Also if I want a fast 2d card with good image quality I could just get a g400...
                  I don't use Linux, but I use OS/2 with the SciTech driver (bought it back in 1999 and updated to SNAP last year), so I would like to see accelerated support of the Parhelia.
                  If someone owns a nVidia card, he/she may still use the nVidia drivers, because SciTech get's "zero" information to support the nVidia chips.

                  All I can say is, the driver is worth the money, even if there is a free driver available.
                  When I started with the SciTech driver I had a ET-6000 based card from Hercules, then a Matrox Mystique and then a Matrox G400. All three had a OS/2 driver, that were good, but even the beta versions from SciTech were better (had only some glitches in the first betas with the ET-6000) than the drivers available from Tseng Labs or Matrox in terms of speed.
                  Matrox had some addons that were not available with the SciTech driver, but that has been corrected last year with the Dual Head and Zoom functions.

                  The greatest feature is still to be able to change the graphic card without installing a new graphic driver. I used this feature several times (checking hardware,...).

                  The only thing that's missing beside the Parhelia support is 3D.
                  I hope SciTech will focus on it (or at least get a deal with the main hardware manufacturers so they do it) after the final release of the Linux Xfree driver.
                  It would be very nice if they can directly support MesaGL.

                  I'm only a fully satisfied customer and do not work for SciTech.
                  cu/2 magog - Germany - flying with OS/2 Warp speed...in a vehicle named eComStation (eCS)
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                  • Amiga Blitter
                    MURCer
                    • Jul 2000
                    • 361

                    #99
                    OMEGA DRIVERS FOR M

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                    • dZeus
                      Moderator
                      • Aug 2000
                      • 4622

                      #100
                      Originally posted by Amiga Blitter
                      OMEGA DRIVERS FOR M
                      that's an even better idea than the Strike thing.... jeez, how I not could have thought of it already. All is clear now, omega drivers will prevail!

                      Omega drivers for the Matrox Parhelia!
                      Omega drivers against the greenhouse effect!
                      Omega drivers against the hole in the ozone layer!

                      All hail Omega drivers!

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                      • The PIT
                        Super MURCer
                        • Aug 1999
                        • 11901

                        #101
                        You got to remember Omega doesn't write his own drivers he just mix and matches and alters a few reg entries.
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                        • [GDI]Raptor
                          Super MURCer
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 1045

                          #102
                          Originally posted by dZeus
                          that's an even better idea than the Strike thing.... jeez, how I not could have thought of it already. All is clear now, omega drivers will prevail!

                          Omega drivers for the Matrox Parhelia!
                          Omega drivers against the greenhouse effect!
                          Omega drivers against the hole in the ozone layer!

                          All hail Omega drivers!
                          dZeus, you forgot Omega drivers for World Peace!

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                          • TdB
                            Super MURCer
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 1238

                            #103
                            what is Omega drivers?
                            This sig is a shameless atempt to make my post look bigger.

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                            • DedicatedFan3D
                              mini MURCer
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 76

                              #104
                              @Kruzin

                              Yeah they have more important things to address, such as fundamentals like a decent performing OGL ICD that they didn't get out the door until last month.

                              Now I assume they are finally working on their horrid performance? Or maybe their crappy Linux driver? I do recall a press release where the Parhelia will have "agressive" Linux support. I believe they will, in another year.

                              I think that the biggest issue Matrox is trying to address is how to keep every last engineer from walking, and from watching their market plummet downward.

                              I anticipate Matrox showing up on F*dcompany.com any day now.
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                              • albatorsk
                                MURCer
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 475

                                #105
                                Originally posted by TdB
                                what is Omega drivers?
                                Google

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