Question about G400 TV-out cable

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  • dirtydog
    mini MURCer
    • May 2003
    • 19

    #1

    Question about G400 TV-out cable

    I thought the TV-out cable for a G400 is different to and incompatible with a TV-out cable for a G450/550.. is that true?

    I ask because someone is selling a Matrox TV-out cable on eBay which he says works with all three cards. Is that possible?
    Intel Celeron 1.0A @ 1.4GHz
    Crucial 384MB PC133
    Matrox G400Max
    JLMS LTD-165H 16x DVD
    Cyberdrive 36x12x48
    Seagate Barracuda IV 20GB
    Soundblaster Live! 5.1
  • Kruzin
    Jeepin' to the grave
    • Aug 1999
    • 6527

    #2
    G450 and G550 use the same breakout cable.
    G400 is different, and NOT interchangable.
    Core2 Duo E7500 2.93, Asus P5Q Pro Turbo, 4gig 1066 DDR2, 1gig Asus ENGTS250, SB X-Fi Gamer ,WD Caviar Black 1tb, Plextor PX-880SA, Dual Samsung 2494s

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    • dirtydog
      mini MURCer
      • May 2003
      • 19

      #3
      That's exactly what I thought.. I emailed the seller and he insists differently though.

      http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...&category=3668

      Anyway I just bought a used G400Max and needed a TV-out cable but I've ordered a new one from Matrox for £15 - the same as the card cost in other words!
      Intel Celeron 1.0A @ 1.4GHz
      Crucial 384MB PC133
      Matrox G400Max
      JLMS LTD-165H 16x DVD
      Cyberdrive 36x12x48
      Seagate Barracuda IV 20GB
      Soundblaster Live! 5.1

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      • dZeus
        Moderator
        • Aug 2000
        • 4622

        #4
        make a cable yourself...

        pinout for s-video/composite output:



        or if you want superior quality image on the tv, use the pinout for SCART-RGB output (provided that your tv supports RGB input over SCART), in combination with the previous pinout scheme:

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        • Kruzin
          Jeepin' to the grave
          • Aug 1999
          • 6527

          #5
          The seller is mistaken.
          If they where the same, there would be no reason to list two different cables for the cards.

          http://shopmatrox.com/usa/products/e...hicscables.asp
          Core2 Duo E7500 2.93, Asus P5Q Pro Turbo, 4gig 1066 DDR2, 1gig Asus ENGTS250, SB X-Fi Gamer ,WD Caviar Black 1tb, Plextor PX-880SA, Dual Samsung 2494s

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          • dirtydog
            mini MURCer
            • May 2003
            • 19

            #6
            Originally posted by dZeus
            make a cable yourself...

            pinout for s-video/composite output:



            or if you want superior quality image on the tv, use the pinout for SCART-RGB output (provided that your tv supports RGB input over SCART), in combination with the previous pinout scheme:

            http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/faq/details.cfm?id=5
            I'll see what quality the standard cable gives first, but that's a possibility I am going from a Geforce2 MX with BT869 (reasonable quality when using TVTool) so I am hoping to see an improvement in TV-out quality - the main use is DVD playback.
            Intel Celeron 1.0A @ 1.4GHz
            Crucial 384MB PC133
            Matrox G400Max
            JLMS LTD-165H 16x DVD
            Cyberdrive 36x12x48
            Seagate Barracuda IV 20GB
            Soundblaster Live! 5.1

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            • dZeus
              Moderator
              • Aug 2000
              • 4622

              #7
              Originally posted by dirtydog
              I'll see what quality the standard cable gives first, but that's a possibility I am going from a Geforce2 MX with BT869 (reasonable quality when using TVTool) so I am hoping to see an improvement in TV-out quality - the main use is DVD playback.
              that's like saying you hope to see an improvement in car performance when going from a Trabant to a Porsche 911 Turbo.

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              • dirtydog
                mini MURCer
                • May 2003
                • 19

                #8
                Okay I've received the breakout cable and got TV-out working with a composite cable, and the picture quality is great

                But.. apparently you get better quality if you use the 7-pin s-video socket, is that right?

                I have only got a 4-pin to 4-pin s-video cable sadly, which 'works' in that it gives me a picture, but the quality is very bad. The cable goes into a 4-pin s-video socket on my TV (via a scart socket). There is no 7-pin input.

                Would I get a better picture by using the 7-pin s-video instead of composite output?

                If so, how would I go about it.. ie. get a 7-pin to 4-pin cable? Or 7-pin to 4-pin converter? Or.. what

                Any help appreciated! Or I could just leave it as it is.. the picture is excellent.. but I always like things like this to be as good as they can possibly be, which is why I bought this card in the first place
                Intel Celeron 1.0A @ 1.4GHz
                Crucial 384MB PC133
                Matrox G400Max
                JLMS LTD-165H 16x DVD
                Cyberdrive 36x12x48
                Seagate Barracuda IV 20GB
                Soundblaster Live! 5.1

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                • dirtydog
                  mini MURCer
                  • May 2003
                  • 19

                  #9
                  Ah I've worked out how to get a good picture with my existing 4-pin s-video cable.. I set my TV to YC input and it gives a good picture - can't tell any difference between it and the composite picture though but still
                  Intel Celeron 1.0A @ 1.4GHz
                  Crucial 384MB PC133
                  Matrox G400Max
                  JLMS LTD-165H 16x DVD
                  Cyberdrive 36x12x48
                  Seagate Barracuda IV 20GB
                  Soundblaster Live! 5.1

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                  • dZeus
                    Moderator
                    • Aug 2000
                    • 4622

                    #10
                    you can't? on my tv it's night and day difference. With composite it looks like a 'blur filter' has been enabled on the tv.

                    SCART-RGB is even better though than S-video.

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                    • dirtydog
                      mini MURCer
                      • May 2003
                      • 19

                      #11
                      I think it is better but as I say, I got an excellent picture with the composite cable too. It is possibly a bit sharper now; it's pretty exquisite anyway - great colours, sharpness, contrast.. much better than the GF2 MX! Gotta be on a par with a good standalone player I'd say.
                      Intel Celeron 1.0A @ 1.4GHz
                      Crucial 384MB PC133
                      Matrox G400Max
                      JLMS LTD-165H 16x DVD
                      Cyberdrive 36x12x48
                      Seagate Barracuda IV 20GB
                      Soundblaster Live! 5.1

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