P750 review (partial)

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  • Sasq
    Administrator
    • Jan 2001
    • 4634

    #16
    I'd like to include the P650 however I don't actually have one

    Dan
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    • Sasq
      Administrator
      • Jan 2001
      • 4634

      #17
      Ask and yea shall receive

      I will have better (read more time taken in presentation) images for the final review, and I still want to get more shots.

      The top image is from 3DMark2001SE

      the bottom two are from Morrowind - they have had the brightness adjusted to improve visability.

      3DMark2001SE


      Morrowind


      Last edited by Sasq; 3 July 2003, 06:31.
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      • TdB
        Super MURCer
        • Jan 2001
        • 1238

        #18
        try to see if the p750 16xfaa also handles intersections between polygons, I believe someone linked to a little test-app that should illustrate this.

        I must admit, Im more interested in the improved 16xfaa tech than in the card itself.

        the p750 might not be a gamers card, but atleast it can boast the best antialiasing, of all the consumer cards available. (although the 8xfsaa of the 3dlabs p9, is supposed to look REALLY nice)

        edit: link
        Last edited by TdB; 3 July 2003, 07:19.
        This sig is a shameless atempt to make my post look bigger.

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        • GNEP
          Super MURCer
          • Feb 2002
          • 5241

          #19
          Dan, those screenshots of Morrowind - the PS water is broken in only ONE version of the Parhelia drivers - AFAIK it's been fixed in the most recent one??? otherwise revert to a 1.03 driver for correct water rendering...
          DM says: Crunch with Matrox Users@ClimatePrediction.net

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          • 3dcgi
            mini MURCer
            • Jun 2001
            • 15

            #20
            Originally posted by NocturnDragon
            Sasq could you try Tenebrae as well? Just to see if the stencil shadows are AntiAliased?
            The improved FAA still doesn't handle intersecting objects so stencil shadows will not be antialiased. There should be no "artifacts" just no antialiasing on the shadows.
            http://www.3dcgi.com/

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            • Kuriton
              mini MURCer
              • Apr 2003
              • 52

              #21
              Hi Sasq, you made the good reviews!

              I seems P750 operates more correct than Parhelia after I checked some benchmark pictures you uploaded.
              I don't know whether its problem depends on hardware or on software.
              Because Parhelia drivers and P750 drivers are the same, I guess its problem depend on hardware currently.
              Shall I ask that to Haig?

              I like Parhelia best.
              Matrox Parhelia(FR) 128MB with ZALMAN ZM-GWB1
              My Matrox history:G550, Parhelia

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              • Sasq
                Administrator
                • Jan 2001
                • 4634

                #22
                @GNEP choices, choices these shots are done using the 1.04.01 drivers as the 1.03 series doesn't support sundog, I'll give it a double check hopefully tonight/tomorrow.

                However just to make sure its clear, both the Parhelia shots and P750 shots are using the same driver revision. So if nothing else we know there is at least a slightly different implementation of FAA
                Juu nin to iro


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                • GNEP
                  Super MURCer
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 5241

                  #23
                  Ahhh - iirc the 1.04.02.07 drivers fixed morrowind again
                  DM says: Crunch with Matrox Users@ClimatePrediction.net

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                  • jgyearwood
                    mini MURCer
                    • May 2003
                    • 8

                    #24
                    Sasq,

                    Thanks for the work! It looks like I will be ordering a P750 to replace my well used G400Max.

                    Now if I can just come up with the money to replace my two 19 inch monitors with 2 18 inch DVI LCDs, without the wife doing a CTL/ALT/DEL on me...

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                    • Sasq
                      Administrator
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 4634

                      #25
                      I'll rerun the FAA checks on the .02's (sorry but I'm not sitting through 8 hours of 3DMark et al again for the bench's - my wife would leave me )

                      I'll try to check out quake and UT this weekend. I don't have Serious Sam and a few of the other games mentioned. - see if I can find some demo's.

                      I should Have Spec view perf results up by the end of the weekend if my wife doesn't decide my free time = housework time.

                      Now apart from benches, does anybody have any application specific requests regarding the P750?

                      Dan
                      Juu nin to iro


                      English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.

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                      • GNEP
                        Super MURCer
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 5241

                        #26
                        How fast does it run MS Office?
                        DM says: Crunch with Matrox Users@ClimatePrediction.net

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                        • Marshmallowman
                          Super MURCer
                          • Sep 1999
                          • 3416

                          #27
                          Sasq have you tried a bit of overclocking yet?

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                          • Sasq
                            Administrator
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 4634

                            #28
                            Lol, i think MS office speed is directly proportional to the amount of time you give to clippy the irritating paper clip.

                            MMM Havn't tried yet, have to do some research on OC tools for it. But I think its safe to say this card is not going to be a killer over clocker. - I could be wrong though - see what I can find out.

                            Dan
                            Juu nin to iro


                            English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.

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                            • GNEP
                              Super MURCer
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 5241

                              #29
                              Go outside Dan and enjoy the summer
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                              • Sasq
                                Administrator
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 4634

                                #30
                                bah were in the middle of tsuyu(too early and my spelling is bad) translation its the rainy season - going involves 1) getting wet, 2) needing a shower to wash all the sweat off.

                                Dan
                                Juu nin to iro


                                English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.

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