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  • TheDarkHorizon
    mini MURCer
    • Jul 2000
    • 80

    #1

    Direct3D on all games.

    Well, this problem has happened to be for a long time. I was using Windows 2000 Advanced Server, and any game that required Direct3D would crash my computer after a short period of time. My computer would also frequently lock up. I decided to format finally and I re-installed windows 2000. I'm still having trouble with Direct3D games. Also, out of no where my computer just reboots. It's really annoying. I'm wondering if I have any IRQ conflicts, but I dont know how to check. Please help, I'd really appreciate it.

    Oh yea, I'm using an FIC SD11 motherboard. Is that bad?
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    AMD Athlon K7 750MHz
    256MB PC-100 SDRAM
    20GB Maxtor 7200RPM Hard Drive
    8.6GB Maxtor 5400RPM Hard Drive
    ATAPI 40X max Generic CD-ROM
    IDE-CD ReWritable-2x2x6x
    SB Live Value
    Matrox Millenium G400 32MB
    SMC EZ Card 10/100 (SMC1211TX) (Network Card To Cable Modem)
    3Com EtherLink III ISA (3C509b-TPO) (Network Card To Network Bridge)
    Windows 2000 5.04 Matrox Millenium G400 Drivers
    Windows 2000 Advanced Server

    [This message has been edited by TheDarkHorizon (edited 25 July 2000).]
    AMD Athlon K7 750MHz
    Asus K7V Motherboard
    384MB PC-100 SDRAM
    20GB Maxtor 7200RPM Hard Drive
    30GB Maxtor 5400RPM Hard Drive
    Generic DVD-ROM
    IDE-CD ReWritable-2x2x6x
    SB Live Value
    Matrox Millenium G400 32MB
    SMC EZ Card 10/100 (SMC1211TX) (Network Card To Cable Modem)
    3Com EtherLink III ISA (3C509b-TPO) (Network Card To Network Bridge)
    Windows ME
    6.20 G400 Drivers
  • Jorden
    Super MURCer
    • Aug 2000
    • 5255

    #2
    In the FAQ Files Forum... I want to show you my IRQs !!


    Jord.

    [This message has been edited by Jorden (edited 25 July 2000).]
    Jordâ„¢

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    • TheDarkHorizon
      mini MURCer
      • Jul 2000
      • 80

      #3
      =] =] =] =]

      is it bad that my g400, sblive value, via usb universal host controller, and smc ez card all use irq 9? =]

      im in windows 2000, those instructions seemed to work...

      well heres the list

      System Information report written at: 07/25/2000 11:47:55 AM
      [IRQs]

      IRQ Number Device
      3 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
      9 Matrox Millennium G400 - English
      9 Creative SB Live! Value (WDM)
      9 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
      9 SMC EZ Card 10/100 (SMC1211TX)
      8 System CMOS/real time clock
      13 Numeric data processor
      12 Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
      1 PC/AT Enhanced PS/2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
      6 Standard floppy disk controller
      4 Communications Port (COM1)
      10 3Com EtherLink III ISA (3C509b-TPO)
      14 Primary IDE Channel
      15 Secondary IDE Channel
      AMD Athlon K7 750MHz
      Asus K7V Motherboard
      384MB PC-100 SDRAM
      20GB Maxtor 7200RPM Hard Drive
      30GB Maxtor 5400RPM Hard Drive
      Generic DVD-ROM
      IDE-CD ReWritable-2x2x6x
      SB Live Value
      Matrox Millenium G400 32MB
      SMC EZ Card 10/100 (SMC1211TX) (Network Card To Cable Modem)
      3Com EtherLink III ISA (3C509b-TPO) (Network Card To Network Bridge)
      Windows ME
      6.20 G400 Drivers

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      • Rags
        Super MURCer
        • Aug 1999
        • 4052

        #4
        I think I know your problem, your motherboard doesn't properly support ACPI (unless they have a new bios that does). Win2k is obviously installed in acpi mode on your machine. IF you feel up to the task, reinstall win2k in normal mode (just disable acpi in your bios, then install win2k).

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        • TheDarkHorizon
          mini MURCer
          • Jul 2000
          • 80

          #5
          BTW, what does ACPI do? Would it cause G400D.DLL to hang on all Direct3D games? Would it cause reboots that just come out of no where?

          ::: groans :::

          Looks like I might have to format again...
          AMD Athlon K7 750MHz
          Asus K7V Motherboard
          384MB PC-100 SDRAM
          20GB Maxtor 7200RPM Hard Drive
          30GB Maxtor 5400RPM Hard Drive
          Generic DVD-ROM
          IDE-CD ReWritable-2x2x6x
          SB Live Value
          Matrox Millenium G400 32MB
          SMC EZ Card 10/100 (SMC1211TX) (Network Card To Cable Modem)
          3Com EtherLink III ISA (3C509b-TPO) (Network Card To Network Bridge)
          Windows ME
          6.20 G400 Drivers

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          • ALBPM
            Super MURCer
            • Aug 1999
            • 3868

            #6
            <FONT SIZE=4>Free Beer on IRQ 9™ !!!<FONT SIZE=2>

            <FONT SIZE=4>... ROTFLMAO<SUP>tm</SUP> ...
            <FONT SIZE=1><SUP>tm</SUP> courtesy of ALBPM aka Darth Mahl [MU]<FONT SIZE=2>

            [This message has been edited by ALBPM (edited 25 July 2000).]
            "Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself"

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            • TheDarkHorizon
              mini MURCer
              • Jul 2000
              • 80

              #7
              eh ALBPM ?

              anyways, i didnt see anything about acpi in my bios settings...
              AMD Athlon K7 750MHz
              Asus K7V Motherboard
              384MB PC-100 SDRAM
              20GB Maxtor 7200RPM Hard Drive
              30GB Maxtor 5400RPM Hard Drive
              Generic DVD-ROM
              IDE-CD ReWritable-2x2x6x
              SB Live Value
              Matrox Millenium G400 32MB
              SMC EZ Card 10/100 (SMC1211TX) (Network Card To Cable Modem)
              3Com EtherLink III ISA (3C509b-TPO) (Network Card To Network Bridge)
              Windows ME
              6.20 G400 Drivers

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              • ALBPM
                Super MURCer
                • Aug 1999
                • 3868

                #8
                Look in the Power Management Setup part of you BIOS.

                The Free beer on IRQ X started back when the G400 was first released. Most of the problems people were having were due to IRQ conflicts.
                Sorry, just a bit of murc humor.

                Paul
                "Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself"

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                • TheDarkHorizon
                  mini MURCer
                  • Jul 2000
                  • 80

                  #9
                  Do I look in power management to fix my IRQ conflicts or to disable ACPI?
                  AMD Athlon K7 750MHz
                  Asus K7V Motherboard
                  384MB PC-100 SDRAM
                  20GB Maxtor 7200RPM Hard Drive
                  30GB Maxtor 5400RPM Hard Drive
                  Generic DVD-ROM
                  IDE-CD ReWritable-2x2x6x
                  SB Live Value
                  Matrox Millenium G400 32MB
                  SMC EZ Card 10/100 (SMC1211TX) (Network Card To Cable Modem)
                  3Com EtherLink III ISA (3C509b-TPO) (Network Card To Network Bridge)
                  Windows ME
                  6.20 G400 Drivers

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                  • TheDarkHorizon
                    mini MURCer
                    • Jul 2000
                    • 80

                    #10
                    In Power Management, I saw an option called Power Management / APM and it was disabled. A bunch of other things were diabled due to this. After I enabled it, I saw one of the options called IRQ9. It was set at ignore, and the only other option I could chose was Monitor.
                    AMD Athlon K7 750MHz
                    Asus K7V Motherboard
                    384MB PC-100 SDRAM
                    20GB Maxtor 7200RPM Hard Drive
                    30GB Maxtor 5400RPM Hard Drive
                    Generic DVD-ROM
                    IDE-CD ReWritable-2x2x6x
                    SB Live Value
                    Matrox Millenium G400 32MB
                    SMC EZ Card 10/100 (SMC1211TX) (Network Card To Cable Modem)
                    3Com EtherLink III ISA (3C509b-TPO) (Network Card To Network Bridge)
                    Windows ME
                    6.20 G400 Drivers

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                    • Sisyfos
                      MURCer
                      • May 2000
                      • 970

                      #11
                      If you want to force an installation of Win2K without ACPI just push the F5 button (undocumented) very early in setup and choose 'Standard....' in stead of 'Advanced...'.
                      I haven tried it myself, so I can't confirm it works by my own experience.
                      P5B Deluxe, C2D E6600, Scythe Ninja, G.Skill 2GBHX
                      Raptor 150x3, Plextor PX-760SA, X-Fi Elite, 7900GT, 21" CM813ET Plus, CM Stacker

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                      • TheDarkHorizon
                        mini MURCer
                        • Jul 2000
                        • 80

                        #12
                        Anyone with an SD11 know how to disable ACPI or know if it conflicts with Windows 2000? Would it help if I switched back to Windows 98?
                        AMD Athlon K7 750MHz
                        Asus K7V Motherboard
                        384MB PC-100 SDRAM
                        20GB Maxtor 7200RPM Hard Drive
                        30GB Maxtor 5400RPM Hard Drive
                        Generic DVD-ROM
                        IDE-CD ReWritable-2x2x6x
                        SB Live Value
                        Matrox Millenium G400 32MB
                        SMC EZ Card 10/100 (SMC1211TX) (Network Card To Cable Modem)
                        3Com EtherLink III ISA (3C509b-TPO) (Network Card To Network Bridge)
                        Windows ME
                        6.20 G400 Drivers

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                        • Rags
                          Super MURCer
                          • Aug 1999
                          • 4052

                          #13
                          You would be able to play your games in win98, but you can too in win2k. First thing's first. Look at FIC's website for bios upgrades for your motherboard, see if there are any that include ACPI fixes, if there are, try updating to that bios first. If there are none, or it doesn't work, nuke your win2k install. Set your computer to boot from the cd, when it boots and you enter setup, hold down the F5 key. You will see a list of options of installs, choose the one that says standard pc. This will use IRQ's the normal way, and will not enable ACPI.

                          ACPI is Advanced Configuration Power Interface. What it does is allow the OS to control certain parts of your computer hardware that used to be uncontrolled/unaccessable to the OS. What win2k does is put all busmastering devices on the IRQ that your ACPI controller sits on, and using that, it can control the interupts within the os rather than on your hardware. Obviously, if a piece of hardware, including your bios doesn't like to play nice with the OS doing this, then you will have problems. Most of the time when you have problems with ACPI it will be a problem with your motherboard/bios. Some NIC, SCSI, and soundcards don't like ACPI, but won't cause a problem like you are having.
                          This is a very simplified explanation, mind you. So I don't want/need anyone to come here and correct me on this. This gives the basic understanding of what happens when you have a full ACPI OS.

                          Rags



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                          • TheDarkHorizon
                            mini MURCer
                            • Jul 2000
                            • 80

                            #14
                            Well, I just formatted, and installed Windows 2000 w/o ACPI. I hope this at least fixes the reboots that my computer likes to do randomly. I still have a problem with Direct3D. Would IRQ conflicting now matter? My NIC for my cable modem uses the same IRQ as my G400.

                            IRQ Number Device
                            11 Matrox Millennium G400 - English
                            11 SMC EZ Card 10/100 (SMC1211TX)
                            9 Creative SB Live! Basic (WDM)
                            10 3Com EtherLink III ISA (3C509b-TPO)
                            14 Primary IDE Channel
                            15 Secondary IDE Channel
                            5 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
                            1 PC/AT PS/2 Keyboard (84-Key)
                            4 Communications Port (COM1)
                            6 Standard floppy disk controller
                            8 System CMOS/real time clock
                            13 Numeric data processor
                            12 Logitech PS/2 Port Mouse

                            Because I'm not a real fan of rebooting and I don't want to waste my time testing a Direct3D game until it crashes, can anyone tell me if the conflicting IRQ could have anything to do with Direct3D giving win2k a BSOD then crashing my computer?
                            AMD Athlon K7 750MHz
                            Asus K7V Motherboard
                            384MB PC-100 SDRAM
                            20GB Maxtor 7200RPM Hard Drive
                            30GB Maxtor 5400RPM Hard Drive
                            Generic DVD-ROM
                            IDE-CD ReWritable-2x2x6x
                            SB Live Value
                            Matrox Millenium G400 32MB
                            SMC EZ Card 10/100 (SMC1211TX) (Network Card To Cable Modem)
                            3Com EtherLink III ISA (3C509b-TPO) (Network Card To Network Bridge)
                            Windows ME
                            6.20 G400 Drivers

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                            • Rags
                              Super MURCer
                              • Aug 1999
                              • 4052

                              #15
                              Yes, It can.

                              Rags



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