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  • dsp
    MURCer
    • Dec 1999
    • 196

    #1

    Two Problems with Parhelia

    I'm having two problems with my Parhelia.

    First I can't play Madden 2002 (demo) at any resolution at any frame rate above 8fps (according to Fraps). The second is that I can't run JKII with 16X FAA when I have Fraps on, it crashes when a level is loaded up (especially the demo). The driver I used is 1.0.4.231 (latest).

    Otherwise, I've been very happy with this card and it performs great without any other problems.
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  • Sinistral
    mini MURCer
    • Jun 2002
    • 81

    #2
    -Holy, crickey. Hello fellow Winnipeger .

    Those games, were they installed after the Parhelia was installed? Are they (JKII I guess) updated? In JKII are you running it in Direct X or Open GL? The Madden demo, im not to sure as to what the problem is. But maybe try reinstalling it . Ill have to try it. -
    - ? -

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    • CaineTanathos
      MURCer
      • May 2002
      • 284

      #3
      stupid question Sinistral, but isn't JKII based on the quake 3 and its opengl only
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      • Novdid
        Super MURCer
        • Nov 2000
        • 2609

        #4
        Yes it is.

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        • dsp
          MURCer
          • Dec 1999
          • 196

          #5
          Sinistral,

          Nice to see another Winnipeger too. Anyway to answer your questions, no I didn't install after installing the card, but it works at any other setting, ie no FAA, or no Fraps, or no JKII. JKII is updated to the latest patch I believe, and is based on the Quake 3 engine (OpenGL only). I did try reinstalling Madden 2002 but it made no difference.

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          • Kruzin
            Jeepin' to the grave
            • Aug 1999
            • 6527

            #6
            I don't know about the Madden issue, but JK2 has an in-game frame counter you can activate instead of using fraps.
            Find this line in your gamedata\base\jk2config.cfg (and/or jk2mpconfig):
            seta cg_drawFPS "0"
            Change the "0" to "1"
            you should also be able to do this from the in-game console.
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            • Pace
              Super MURCer
              • Feb 2000
              • 3414

              #7
              Does Madden2000 seem like its running at 8fps?

              As to your JK2 problem...why run fraps? If the game runs, run it
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              • dsp
                MURCer
                • Dec 1999
                • 196

                #8
                Pace,

                According to Fraps Madden 2002 is running at 8fps and yes it is very slow, my Kyro II was faster than it .

                Kruzin,

                I'm not really worried about in game frame rates, the reason I am using Fraps is that I want a second by second record of the frame rate for the Parhelia review I'm working on. I wish to create a graph of the frame rate (as suggested previously in the benchmark forum).

                I did reinstall JKII but it did nothing to improve the situation.

                dsp
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                MSI 845PE FISR
                8.4GB Quantum CR
                40GB Maxtor 5400
                MSI 40X12X48
                Coolerguys Windtunnel IV
                SB Audigy
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                • Kruzin
                  Jeepin' to the grave
                  • Aug 1999
                  • 6527

                  #9
                  Just for giggles, I tried to run Fraps with JK2.
                  I'm in surround mode, winXP.
                  With FAA at application's request, it worked as expected.
                  With FAA forced on, the game loaded and ran, Fraps did not display on the screen, but it did record the log.
                  Note that I am using unreleased beta drivers, so if this is a driver issue, it is at least partially handled...
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                  • GNEP
                    Super MURCer
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 5241

                    #10
                    I wish to create a graph of the frame rate (as suggested previously in the benchmark forum).
                    Oooh. Just what I like to see Where is your review going to go? And what cards are you pitting it against?

                    Of course, I have already bought the card, but as with cars, many reviews are read post-purchase to make you smug (or think d'oh!)

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                    • Maggi
                      Super MURCer
                      • Jan 2000
                      • 5057

                      #11
                      isn't FRAPS a pure DX utility ?

                      how could it measure OGL fps ?
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                      • UberLord
                        MURCer
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 233

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Maggi
                        isn't FRAPS a pure DX utility ?

                        how could it measure OGL fps ?
                        Not only more - recent version nows support OpenGL.

                        I can see my FPS in Neverwinter Nights using FRAPS and thats an OpenGL game
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                        • Maggi
                          Super MURCer
                          • Jan 2000
                          • 5057

                          #13
                          interesting ...

                          thanx for insight.
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                          • CaineTanathos
                            MURCer
                            • May 2002
                            • 284

                            #14
                            dsp whats the url for your site?
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                            • dsp
                              MURCer
                              • Dec 1999
                              • 196

                              #15
                              As long as the moderators don't mind its: www.viperlair.com. Unfortunately I only have a Ti4200 (64MB), Kyro II and my G400 to pit it against (anyone want to send me a Radeon 8500 ) and my processor is rather weak (see sig).

                              The review should be up in a couple of weeks, and I'm planning on having the news of the review sent to Ant on the front page of MURC.
                              Last edited by dsp; 15 August 2002, 11:12.
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