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  • schmosef
    Super MURCer
    • Dec 2002
    • 5813

    #1

    Problem with Freespace 2

    I was feeling nostalgic the other day and installed Freespace 2 on one of my workstations.

    I think I either had a G400 or maybe a TNT2 based card when I played it all those years ago.

    Anyway, it hangs a few seconds into playing a mission.

    I tried Freespace 1 and it seems to play ok, but I ran out of time and haven't had a chance to play a complete mission.

    I'm running the SE drivers (version 1.7.0.89) on a P650 card in this particular machine. It's a shuttle XPC with an Intel 875P chipset and a P4 3.2 GHz cpu running Windows XP Pro SP2.

    I'm wondering if anyone has played this game recently with Matrox's newer drivers. I'm using the SE drivers because they fix a problem I had with Visual Studio not restoring properly from a minimized state.

    I'm a big fan of these space combat games. It's too bad they haven't been financially viable to develop lately. I'd love a new X-Wing or Wing Commander type game to come out. Or Freespace 3. Those Volition guys really had a masterpiece with that series. MS had something with Starlancer, but blew it with Freelancer.
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  • SitFlyer
    Super MURCer
    • Aug 2002
    • 7178

    #2
    Definitely one of the best games ever

    I love that game. Reinstalling it has been on my to-do list for some time. Guess I need to make this a priority.

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    • az
      Moderator
      • Feb 2001
      • 9336

      #3
      Oh yeah! I love that mission where you fly in that stolen alien ship to check out their biggest warship - most suspenseful ten minutes I've had in any game

      I'd love another Freespace, but I'd LOVE another Wing Commander Privateer (didn't really like the ordinary wing commander games). I'll try out X2 in a few days. Any other recommendations in this genre?

      Oh schmosef, sorry for the OT.

      AZ
      There's an Opera in my macbook.

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      • schmosef
        Super MURCer
        • Dec 2002
        • 5813

        #4
        No apologies necessary. Discussion on this game genre is very welcome.

        If you like Privateer, you might like Freelancer. It's by Chris Roberts, the creator of the Wing Commander series (although I think he left during development). There's a free demo available from MS web site.
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        • az
          Moderator
          • Feb 2001
          • 9336

          #5
          I played Freelancer (I think... or was it starlancer?). It had no real story, but the mouse flight worked far better than I'd thought (and was welcome, because my trusty old Logitech Wingman Extreme had somehow vanished, and I don't have a gameport anymore anyhow).

          Privateer II: The Darkening was done by Chris' brother Erin, though.

          AZ
          There's an Opera in my macbook.

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          • James_D
            MURCer
            • Jun 2002
            • 407

            #6
            Logitech Wingman Extreme also has a gameport to usb converter.. so you can use it on the usb instead of the gameport.


            Well Freespace has a ok story if a little short, and if you have the original, I would suggest to check out lancersreactor to get the super mod that these people made for the game.. Its really like a sequel.

            I would also try the Independece war series if I were you. Nice story, nice gameplay.

            Best
            JD
            Mater tua criceta fuit, et pater tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus.

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            • KeiFront
              Super MURCer
              • Sep 2001
              • 2668

              #7
              FYI, there are some excellent mods out for Freelancer.
              Main: Dual Xeon LV2.4Ghz@3.1Ghz | 3X21" | NVidia 6800 | 2Gb DDR | SCSI
              Second: Dual PIII 1GHz | 21" Monitor | G200MMS + Quadro 2 Pro | 512MB ECC SDRAM | SCSI
              Third: Apple G4 450Mhz | 21" Monitor | Radeon 8500 | 1,5Gb SDRAM | SCSI

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              • schmosef
                Super MURCer
                • Dec 2002
                • 5813

                #8
                I've got Starlancer. And it was a good game. Freelancer was a big disappointment.
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                • SitFlyer
                  Super MURCer
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 7178

                  #9
                  Update.... On my Parhelia128, using the latest WHQL drivers, I have had zero crashes in FS2, just pure pleasure

                  Win2k - SP4, fully updated

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                  • schmosef
                    Super MURCer
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 5813

                    #10
                    hmm... I'll have to give those drivers a try. But I need the SE drivers for work...
                    P.S. You've been Spanked!

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                    • KeiFront
                      Super MURCer
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 2668

                      #11
                      Schmosef, is the Visual Studio 2003 problem still not fixed then?
                      Main: Dual Xeon LV2.4Ghz@3.1Ghz | 3X21" | NVidia 6800 | 2Gb DDR | SCSI
                      Second: Dual PIII 1GHz | 21" Monitor | G200MMS + Quadro 2 Pro | 512MB ECC SDRAM | SCSI
                      Third: Apple G4 450Mhz | 21" Monitor | Radeon 8500 | 1,5Gb SDRAM | SCSI

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                      • schmosef
                        Super MURCer
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 5813

                        #12
                        It's fixed in the SE drivers, which, according to Matrox tech support, use a different technique for window management. They said that this alternate technique will eventually be incorporated into the regular driver set.
                        P.S. You've been Spanked!

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                        • az
                          Moderator
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 9336

                          #13
                          I'm currently playing X2: The Threat. It's a space/business sim with very beautiful graphics and music and very slow gameplay. I've played for 20 hours now and I haven't had a single fight yet (I tried to take on a freighter with my light fighter but I died almost instantly). The game's economy part is HUGE, and everything you do has repercussions (supply the ore mines with energy cells -> more ore -> ore prices fall -> more and cheaper ore dependant goods), you can buy as many ships as you want (and tell ships you are not piloting at the moment what they should do, if they have the correct comm modules installed). Ship sitze ranges from very small fighter to carrier class battleships and huge freighters which can haul stations (which you can buy and run, they're basically factories in space). There are lots of upgrades you can buy, there is a story, it's just that I really don't care about the trading aspect, but I have to do it since I need to make money to be able to afford a better ship, and it's cumbersome. But I've read that the first million is the hardest, once you've got a few factories up and running, the money should start flowing

                          It's actually a little like freelancer - nice ideas, lots of freedom, just the gameplay isn't really there. There's a playable demo here.

                          I must give the game some credit though: It's really beautiful and elaborate, I just think it's too elaborate. I honestly don't know how I am supposed to play it. I don't WANT to have to manage stations, freighters etc. I want to fly self-employed in my one ship (and maybe have others in the garage) and be able to make money off missions, not off trading runs.

                          AZ

                          AZ
                          There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                          • SitFlyer
                            Super MURCer
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 7178

                            #14
                            Major bumpage

                            I've recently discovered FreeSpace 2 lives, in the open source community





                            If you want or need the latest build see here

                            You only need the torrent download if you don't already have FS2.

                            A ported FS1 to the new FS2, as well as new campaigns, is included in the updates

                            Enjoy
                            Last edited by SitFlyer; 12 August 2006, 23:02.

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                            • VJ
                              Moderator
                              • Mar 2001
                              • 9733

                              #15
                              I loved the Descent series (I, II and III), we actually had a LAN-party back in 1995 (20 or so friends, with powerfull machines at the time), where Descent I was one of the most played games.
                              I lost track by the time Freespace came, but following this thread I have downloaded the open source FS2...


                              Jörg
                              pixar
                              Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tomorrow. (James Dean)

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