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  • VJ
    Moderator
    • Mar 2001
    • 9733

    #31
    I've ordered a desk, so my home computer might be running soon... But on the other hand, it is summer here, and 28°... So I may limit it till come winter again...
    pixar
    Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tomorrow. (James Dean)

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    • J1NG
      Super MURCer
      • Feb 2000
      • 1388

      #32
      Sorry everyone, I've had to spend more time with my father who is getting physio (from me) as the nhs gave up on him already. So I haven't been by my machines lately, so they haven't been on really.

      Prior to my current temporary absence, I also discovered that the boinc client does something funny with the graphics card and crashes the system every couple of hours. Was using latest stable drivers for my setup, which also increased my decision to step aside for now until that can be resolved.

      Will be back to support the cause soon.

      J1NG

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      • Umfriend
        Crabby Smurf
        • Mar 2001
        • 7306

        #33
        Hi J1NG, sry to hear about your father and the NHS. Good luck with that and keep up with the good work.

        Curious, what issue did you have with the vid.card and was it when using the BOINC screensaver or something else entirely?
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        • J1NG
          Super MURCer
          • Feb 2000
          • 1388

          #34
          Haven't fully done tests to find out what's going on, pretty sure it's not the screen saver though as it doesn't get a chance to activate, but whilst the Boinc client is running roughly every 30-90 minutes the system will crash since I updated the AMD graphics drivers (there's only 1 100% fully stable driver for my setup - 12.3 release, but some of the software I'm running needs the later official drivers). Anyway, there's no explanation at all when it occurs. Haven't been able to check logs, as I've simply not had time.

          But I'll get down to the bottom of it and sort it out. Hopefully just driver issue so an update will correct, if not, will sale back to 6 threads and see then as well.

          J1NG

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          • ZokesPro
            Serial Murcerer
            • Sep 2000
            • 8325

            #35
            Originally posted by Umfriend View Post
            Yeah, I've been eyeing them too. Just wondering: it could be that it's just some employee running R@H at the owners' computeres unauthorised. I've been toying with the idea to send management a mail... Or is that to much?
            They have two of their machines and ranked 1 and 2 out of all the computers running rosetta giving them 14000 credit average each, that's a slight edge over us. Plus I did all I could on the budget I had to get us where we are today. I'm tapped out for years to come. But I work for an ISP, but I doubt they'd let me install boinc on the servers.

            If they are using their work servers to run boinc without authorisation, I'd say an email wouldn't hurt.

            Oops did I already send an email? Naughty me. I doubt it'll do anything cause the email was sent via their web page and if I do a whois on their domain, I can only get the webmaster@milwaukeetool.com which I doubt will make any impact if I send them an email.
            Titanium is the new bling!
            (you heard from me first!)

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            • ZokesPro
              Serial Murcerer
              • Sep 2000
              • 8325

              #36
              Originally posted by J1NG View Post
              Haven't fully done tests to find out what's going on, pretty sure it's not the screen saver though as it doesn't get a chance to activate, but whilst the Boinc client is running roughly every 30-90 minutes the system will crash since I updated the AMD graphics drivers (there's only 1 100% fully stable driver for my setup - 12.3 release, but some of the software I'm running needs the later official drivers). Anyway, there's no explanation at all when it occurs. Haven't been able to check logs, as I've simply not had time.

              But I'll get down to the bottom of it and sort it out. Hopefully just driver issue so an update will correct, if not, will sale back to 6 threads and see then as well.

              J1NG
              Why be sorry? Family comes first. BUT!!!! If your willing to help with our team at Rosetta, that would be awesome.
              Titanium is the new bling!
              (you heard from me first!)

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              • Umfriend
                Crabby Smurf
                • Mar 2001
                • 7306

                #37
                Originally posted by ZokesPro View Post
                Oops did I already send an email?
                You've got to be joking LOL
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                • J1NG
                  Super MURCer
                  • Feb 2000
                  • 1388

                  #38
                  Currently got primary machine working again, limited it to 6 threads for now rather than the original 8. Didn't get through to read the logs yet when it did crash, so just working on idea that 100% all 8 threads was locking the system up as I'm using a software ramdisk as well, so might have been a contention issue. Likely it isn't the issue, since it only started after the driver update, but lets see. If it works, a similar workaround will be applied to the other machine. Should then have 80% of what I was running with previously back on the team.

                  J1NG

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                  • Umfriend
                    Crabby Smurf
                    • Mar 2001
                    • 7306

                    #39
                    Let's hope it works. R@H does tend to take about 400MB per WU, so 8 threads take about 3.2GB. But then, given your 64GB monster, that should not matter I guess.

                    What I do wonder about is this: a 4C/8T proc, is that still about 20% faster than a 4C/4T CPU? If so, I can imagine either 4 or 8 threads at a time might be more sensible. Zokes, of course, has 8 _real_ cores ;-)
                    Join MURCs Distributed Computing effort for Rosetta@Home and help fight Alzheimers, Cancer, Mad Cow disease and rising oil prices.
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                    • J1NG
                      Super MURCer
                      • Feb 2000
                      • 1388

                      #40
                      OK, today's trial looks like it is a ramdisk contention issue when 8 threads are running. Scaled it back down to 6 threads and left it going at full whack. No technical issues and no noticeable heat increase either. Why it only started since the AMD Graphics driver update is anyone's guess. Will be leaving the other machine on full though at 4 threads as that one isn't currently running a ramdisk. So will have a 6 thread and a 4 thread setup coming back online properly soon to help the team.

                      J1NG

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                      • Umfriend
                        Crabby Smurf
                        • Mar 2001
                        • 7306

                        #41
                        Wow! Great! Thanks! That'll keep the Milwaukee Tool Company at bay for quite a while longer.
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                        • Umfriend
                          Crabby Smurf
                          • Mar 2001
                          • 7306

                          #42
                          And I see Marshmallowman has booted up again as well! With 9 real active members (out of 11 total) we're set to do very well.

                          I know why Maggi quit, but what happened to degrub?
                          Join MURCs Distributed Computing effort for Rosetta@Home and help fight Alzheimers, Cancer, Mad Cow disease and rising oil prices.
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                          • Marshmallowman
                            Super MURCer
                            • Sep 1999
                            • 3416

                            #43
                            not so good...my old reliable dual socket opteron server just died in the service of rosetta.

                            If I can't find a reasonably priced replacement , I might be giving away a couple 290 opterons and 16 gb of 400mhz ddr1 ram...

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                            • Umfriend
                              Crabby Smurf
                              • Mar 2001
                              • 7306

                              #44
                              OMG, What happened? Surely not R@H related?
                              Join MURCs Distributed Computing effort for Rosetta@Home and help fight Alzheimers, Cancer, Mad Cow disease and rising oil prices.
                              [...]the pervading principle and abiding test of good breeding is the requirement of a substantial and patent waste of time. - Veblen

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                              • Marshmallowman
                                Super MURCer
                                • Sep 1999
                                • 3416

                                #45
                                well, it shut down at some point and now won't boot. No error beeps or anything.
                                It will power up and fans will spin but that is it, the chipset fan is making a bit of noise which worries me.

                                100% load for a day probably tipped it over the edge, but it should it should have shutdown if it overheated
                                changed CPUs, ram and video cards.. no luck

                                8 years of sometimes brutal duty, but its kind of been in retirement for the last few...I just upgraded from xp pro64 to win 8 a week ago to improve compatabilty...
                                It was supermicro h8dce dual socket 940 opteron mobo..

                                It *may* still be the PSU, but it works in another computer and I don't have a spare rated high enough to be sure... last attempt to fix it tommorrow when I try a 850watt psu.

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