nVidiots

[paulcs]

I was in the mood to get pissed off, so I began perusing alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia. Some guy named Jerry gave a fairly good explanation of why enabling AGP 4x should really enhance performance. He was clear, concise, citing examples of when AGP texturing actually comes into play, etc.

Some guy named Marius responded. This young genius has upgraded from an overclocked PIII 450 to a 700 MHz Althon at spec. Convinced that CPU speed doesn't really effect Quake3 performance, he assumes his 55 FPS increase is due to AGP 4X transfers. Here's his post:

"Whatever you say.

"This does not change the fact that on my P III 450 (2xAGP mobo) I got 105
FPS if I overclocked both CPU and GeForce.

"With my 4XAGP (Athlon 700 - but CPU does not play that large a role in
Quake) I have gotten 135 -160 FPS on same settings with NO OVERCLOCKING.

"(Stability is still an issue on the 7kZA regardless of the AGP settting...
but I'm trying to find the problem.)

Marius."

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Paul
paulcs@flashcom.net

[dZeus]

hehe, I know this kind of stuff.... best thing to do is to ignore these people, since you cannot convince them of the truth anyway.... they will go at great lengths to defend their original statement, even if that means they will make a fool of themselves to all other people (and they know it).

To ignore is the best countermeasure

[Maggi]

Bwaahahahahaha

So you had to go there, Paul ?

[merchant2112]

omg i know there are a lot of stupid people but not that stupid ......

noel


"where is the any key!!!! i can't find the any key! my keyboard is defective!!!!"

[Maggi]

Hi Noel,

the 'any' key is hidden underneath your keyboard ...
Just grab it and examine real closely its backside ...

chances are close to 100% that you'd incidently press down a key while picking it up and looking at the backside

[Hunsow]

[Maggi]

Bwaaahahahahaha ... where did you get that keyboard, Hunsow ???

How much was it ?
.. I could need it for my girlfriend, you know ?

[Snake-Eyes]

Hehe, Paul. This just reinforces the statement I made in MHW as to why I rarely post anything over in the nVidia newsgroups. W-AA-AAAYY too many folks like that frequent those groups, although there is the occasional bright one, too (which is why I bother even reading them). Same thing seems to go for most of the 3DFX sites.

All in all, this place (MURC) has the most responsible, rational people, or so it seems.
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Ace


[This message has been edited by Ace (edited 23 June 2000).]

[Jorden]

Sometimes, Ace ... sometimes

I think those nVidiots will find this error message on their screens a couple of times a day:





Jord.

[paulcs]

I once made the mistake of using the idiomatic expression, "the book on...," in response to a guy named "Stooboy" who had uploaded a proud post about the amazing results he had gotten from opening his AGP aperture to 512 MB. I responded that "the book on AGP aperture" was one should set it to half of system RAM and not double, although, of course, sometimes you have to set it to 256 for stability and/or optimal performance with some configurations. (He had 256 MB of RAM installed, by the way.)

One of the GeForce fansite webmasters informed me that Stooboy disabled AGP altogether with this little maneuver. I considered suggesting a couple of other things he could have tried before doing something that drastic, but he emailed me the following response, and I decided against it:

"book? nobody gets their best performance from a book.If my system is running like a dream do you think that i am going to change it because some geek has written a book on agp aperature sizes?the bloke probably still has a spectrum!"
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I'm near certain, given the quality of his posts, that he wasn't being facetious.


Paul
paulcs@flashcom.net

[Himself]

I give most of them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are just kids or newbies.

[paulcs]

You're a better man than me.

We were all newbies once, and I think they should be given every consideration. A simple IRQ conflict can be an absolute nightmare to someone who doesn't know how to deal with it.

Genuine, bonafied fools and incompetents have a tendency to think they're experts and know better than anyone else. There is a certain bluster (which frequently translates to out and out rudeness) that I find offensive.

Teenagers, I think, have to be given a little bit of slack. I suspect a lot of nonsense posted by teens can be attributed to impulsiveness, gracelessness, and the inability to establish cause and effect relationships. However, some people are just jerks. They were jerks when they were teens, and they remain jerks as adults.

Paul
paulcs@flashcom.net

[Himself]

I look at it as an exercise in self restraint, good practice if you ever had to deal with a bunch of 5 years olds running around the house, yelling and shrieking.

[Snake-Eyes]

Hehe. That's cute Jord. Sure hope I don't have to see that. Bout the only time that error occurs for me is right after I make a post here, and realize I misplelled several words, and left a few out. Then I gotta go edit the post. Funny how I never catch them while I'm typing/proofreading the first post.

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Ace

[PurpleHaze]

<slaps forehead> That was my problem all along! I still had a spectrum! ... I assume he means, had spread spectrum enabled. Yoy.

No, no this was simple monkey logic, Paul.

"is bigger number. Bigger good! Bigger make faster!", a.k.a, 'well, ours go to eleven.'

Now, heh I dunno if I count as an nVidiot because I did get m'self a GeForce... But I guess I don't understand the mantra of overclocking and never have :|

Since I've got my 900, i've had plenty of people say "Why didn't you just get a 750 and overclock it???" ... I dunno. Part of me would just feel kinda tainted if I did that. I'd have to start running Be, or something.

this is kinda like the guy who told me that MP3 "took the best from MP1 and MP2" ...

[blinks. nods.]

I know this post is disjointed and makes no sense. This is Ami, pre-coffee. ung.



[This message has been edited by PurpleHaze (edited 27 June 2000).]