Driving by school busses?

[Dr Mordrid]

Just noting that Canada's enthusiasm may be OK in some things (school bus runners) but at times their regulators & legislation tend to wander into overkill mode, which causes them to delve into social supression at times.

Dr. Mordrid

[az]

I can't quite understand this, I think - When the kids get off the school bus, they are on the sidewalk, aren't they? Why is it then forbidden to pass the bus? Because of kids that might run into the street?

And Joel, if it's forbidden to pass the bus from either side, wouldn't that mean that one school bus could stop the entire traffic of a whole street?

AZ

[Joel]

And Joel, if it's forbidden to pass the bus from either side, wouldn't that mean that one school bus could stop the entire traffic of a whole street?

Exactly. A stopped school bus loading or unloading kids stops even a four lane road for the simple reason that some of those kids may actually live on the other side of the road than they are let off from. Also a school bus stop at any corner of a intersection stops the whole intersection.

Joel

[az]

And all this because parents can't teach their kids not to run into the road when there's traffic, and because there are some idiot drivers who wouldn't drive slower and more careful if there are children nearby?

AZ

[ZokesPro]

Originally posted by az
I can't quite understand this, I think - When the kids get off the school bus, they are on the sidewalk, aren't they? Why is it then forbidden to pass the bus? Because of kids that might run into the street?
AZ

Not always. They can cross either way, that's why they have to block all traffic.

Originally posted by az
And Joel, if it's forbidden to pass the bus from either side, wouldn't that mean that one school bus could stop the entire traffic of a whole street?

AZ

Yes.

I know you were asking Joel but it's that way here.

[ZokesPro]

Originally posted by az
And all this because parents can't teach their kids not to run into the road when there's traffic, and because there are some idiot drivers who wouldn't drive slower and more careful if there are children nearby?

AZ

Kids here in Canada are specifically tought in school to look both ways before crossing. They are also taught to use a crosswalk to cross the street. We also have crossing guards whom get hit by retards far too often. The kids are smart the drivers are not.

[ZokesPro]

Originally posted by Dr Mordrid
Just noting that Canada's enthusiasm may be OK in some things (school bus runners) but at times their regulators & legislation tend to wander into overkill mode, which causes them to delve into social supression at times.

Dr. Mordrid

True.

[The PIT]

Originally posted by ZokesPro


Kids here in Canada are specifically tought in school to look both ways before crossing. They are also taught to use a crosswalk to cross the street. We also have crossing guards whom get hit by retards far too often. The kids are smart the drivers are not.

Kids here aren't taught to do anything nowadays it's always the drivers fault. In this country it's okay to pass, however if you're a driver with Brains you slow down. If you don't have Brains you run some sucker over and then give everyone else the curse of the speed humps.

[dave m]

I came so close to running a woman down yesterday, she popped out from behind a bus I was overtaking and walked across the road without once looking up the street. If I hadn't slowed down as I passed the bus I'd have hit her, yet I don't think she was even aware I braked to avoid her.

Dave

[Technoid]

In my city there is a quarter mile stright strip of road....
On one of the side there is a school and on both sided it is buss stops...
The posted speed limit is 18 mp/h
It is usualy used as drag strip with speeds well over 60
No kid has yet been killed but I'm afraid that it is just a matter of time!

[az]

I really don't know what's going on in these drivers. I really don't know why some people think it's cool to do over 100 km/h at night on a narrow street with blind curves...

AZ

[The PIT]

Originally posted by dave m
I came so close to running a woman down yesterday, she popped out from behind a bus I was overtaking and walked across the road without once looking up the street. If I hadn't slowed down as I passed the bus I'd have hit her, yet I don't think she was even aware I braked to avoid her.

Dave

At a tricky junction i.e you need four eyes this bloke just pushed his pram out from behind a van. I saw him coming and I had a choice to stop slowly, carry on and make him stop and I was going that slowly I had plenty of time. So I cruised to a stop three feet away and he starts gobbing of at me. He wanted to see and hear blue smoke and screeching tyres no doubt. What a prick.
Another time a bunch of school kids were crossing escorted by one parent while the other stopped the traffic namely me.
Fine except the problem was that the kids had already crossed and were twenty feet away walking up another road and there she is gobbing off at me telling me stop. I was waiting for her hate of car drivers to allow her to realise there was no one crossing behind her. Another prick she was.

[Rakido]

Hey Thop,

when did you make your driver's licence?

Originally posted by thop
no fine here, pass them anytime you want. that's probably because you rarely see a school bus here.
ps. just looked it up: no fine, but when you pass the bus while it is "taking off" (dont know the proper word) it is between 5-30€.

That's not right, you have to slow down to "schrittgeschwindigkeit" (dunno the right term, it's the speed of a walking passenger). If you don't and get caught hindering or endangering a child you have to pay a fine of 40-50 Euro and you get two points (you lose your license with 18 points ).



Rakido

[thop]

you are half right you only have to pay if you are hindering or endangering a child like you said and when you are passing the bus on the right. so you can pass the bus on the left (when the kids get out on the right) without any problems. still it's common sense to slow down.

http://www.auto.de/Ratgeber/Bussgeld_2002/Bussgeld_Busse.htm

[agallag]

Originally posted by Dr Mordrid


So? In Canada you can't have a TV dish or say "bad things" to people without being accused of some kind of human rights violation either

Talk about an overbearing government....

Dr. Mordrid

Actually, neither of those points are correct at all.

We have at least two legal satellite tv companies (Bell ExpressVu and StarChoice), and we can also get "grey market" directTV which is technically legal.

Our freedom of speech laws are very similar to yours. Hate speech is illegal (whatever that means, similar to US laws), but we can basically speak our minds without risk.

So what, exactly, are you talking about?