Parhelia's gonna be lame (not MY opinion, but Tom's)

[impact]

he's not, he's just russian... (sorry couldn't resist, feel free to follow the instructions in my sig to decontaminate yourselves)

[Slougi]

No, he is a realist. The general pc user will not buy a parhelia, although it might turn out that the proffesionals will do that. But even the pc-enthusiasts will most propably wait for the NV30/R300.

Luckily not all of us are similar

Edit: forgot bunny

[Novdid]

NO, no, no.

The enthusiast is probably the one getting a Parhelia (think about the features my friend, and that means not only the 3d features). Only the gamer that doesn't know anything about hardware may get an nV based board (they are easier to get hold of). But don't forget it will take a loooooong time before we see any NV30's or R300's on the shelfs.

Parhelia is a fantastic product, and the people moaning are in my opinion plain ignorant. One example is the issue about some form of bandwidth saving tech. THIS THING HAS 20GB/s OF BANDWIDTH!!! And with a four pipe chip, do you need more???

[Slougi]

It depends on the definition of enthusiast. From the people I know on irc and other bbs's, I am the only one even remotely excited by the parhelia, and I would classify these people enthusiasts. All in all the welcome of Parhelia has been far from positive, with people complaining about price (400$ gf x anyone?), die size and other things.

[EFA11]

And no matter what users think of these sites.. The companies never stop sending information to them. Why? Because we should all know, Good or bad review doesnt matter, its demographics of the site.

oh and the comment about tom=nvidiot.. hah nvidiots don't like him either

[EFA11]

Until people see the card up against other cards, and see how it performs for the money. People will continue to be skeptical.

The $400 or $500 isn't an issue with the majority of people wanting a high-end card (and there's quite a few of those people). Its all about performance. The features only become an issue after the performance has been scrutinized. Why is that? Because above all else, the performance is what people want to see first and foremost. Second comes what the card has for a feature set. If a card has killer performance and lacks certain features, it will be excepted by the people who know that some features are not even available for another year or two in games and apps anyway. If a card has killer features and lacks performance, it will be pushed to the side for the next card. What needs to be focused on during a launch is the performance, followed close behind with the features.

This is coming from someone who has no brand loyalty, so I can separate myself from that fanboyism stuff.

[Hati]

When visiting xbit I was a little annoyed reading the following :

As for professional application, which I considered the most suitable for parhelia-512 once I saw the specs, everything will depend on the software quality, on the drivers for professional applications (such as ELSA drivers for Quadro, for instance). And Matrox has never been very successful at writing drivers.

While using my matrox cards in the past I never realized that Matrox wasn't successful at writing drivers.

But maybe it's some kind of revenge for beeing accused of breaking NDAs (article over at digit.life).

[Joel]

If a card has killer features and lacks performance, it will be pushed to the side for the next card. What needs to be focused on during a launch is the performance, followed close behind with the features.

If your target market is the fps kiddies then yes this is how you should do it, but since they make up a very small part of the over all market you don't do it this way.

If >200fps in Q3 is what you are looking for then go buy a console unit. This card will be more that adequate for the current games and is ready for those to come plus this card has the features to support what the majority of computer user use their machines for and that is not gaming.

Joel

[Novdid]

I was browsing my way through Gamespot to see what games that are in the works and I stumbled across their Parhelia preview. It's actually a very good preview, and as they are a gaming site only they focus only on what Parhelia has to offer in games, and they liked what they saw.

Unreal Tournament 2003 and Doom III aren't that far away, and, as the standard bearers for Epic's and id's widely licensed graphics engines, they should have a wider influence on PC graphics than any other individual games can. Matrox has spent two years building the Parhelia 3D engine from the ground up, and it has plenty of bells and whistles that will do more to make it competitive in tests based on these future games than in old standards like Quake III.

http://gamespot.com/gshw/stories/flat/0,12880,2865404,00.html

[Pace]

Anyone (old enough to) remember the Millennium I launch?

What kind of reaction did it get? I'm off to find Tom's review of it

P.

[SoBizarre]

http://tom.pabst.wasarrested.com/sheep

[Dr Mordrid]

HeHeHeHe......

Dr. Mordrid

[spawn666]

very funny...

[CaineTanathos]

this one wrote the parhelia article on Tomshardware.com

Lars Weinand - Contributing Editor
lars@tomshardware.com

Flame him
the conclusion sucked indeed

[rugger]

Originally posted by CaineTanathos
this one wrote the parhelia article on Tomshardware.com

Lars Weinand - Contributing Editor
lars@tomshardware.com

Flame him
the conclusion sucked indeed

Who cares, lets let the disbelievers eat hat when it comes to the crunch

(like me, a reformed hat eater and once matrox disbeliever)