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  • Adam_F
    mini MURCer
    • Feb 2002
    • 31

    #1

    Dual DVI & TV

    Hi,
    Does anyone know if the Parhelia chip will support 2 DVI flat panels and TV out.

    Looking at the Chip Block Diagram i dont see why it shouldnt.

    I understand the current 128MB card does not but if the chip is capable of this then could we see it in a future card?

    If a future card could support this then it would give a really useful feature to a lot of multimedia producers, as at present if you dont play games there is not really any reason to upgrade from a Dual DVI G550 to the Parhelia.
    Last edited by Adam_F; 22 July 2002, 03:47.
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  • P5ycho
    MURCer
    • May 2000
    • 280

    #2
    no, it does not. maybe you can search on the subject because this has been asked many times before.

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    • Adam_F
      mini MURCer
      • Feb 2002
      • 31

      #3
      From what i can find Dual DVI and TV out has only been spoke about in terms of the currently released board, not the chipset.

      Anyway its not that easy to search for things when the main words your are looking for 'DVI' and 'TV' are both too short to be searched for.
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      • P5ycho
        MURCer
        • May 2000
        • 280

        #4
        sice the card only has 2 ramdacs this is also impossible on the chip level i guess.

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        • Ssin
          MURCer
          • May 2002
          • 182

          #5
          why shouldn't it be possible? G400 family only had 1 ramDAC and could output to 1 screen and 1 tv at the same time.
          Let those who want to be simple, be simple.

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          • Adam_F
            mini MURCer
            • Feb 2002
            • 31

            #6
            Surely it does not need a RAMDAC for DVI output

            Last edited by Adam_F; 22 July 2002, 05:23.
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            Matrox G550 Dual DVI
            2x iiyama 4332 17" LCD
            2x WD 80000JB (8MB Cache)
            Echo Mia
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            CoolerMaster ATC-500
            Canopus ADVC-100

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            • Evildead666
              Super MURCer
              • Mar 2002
              • 3116

              #7
              It has a two display controller.
              The third head on the Parhelia is special, and will only work for triple head in gaming
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              • P5ycho
                MURCer
                • May 2000
                • 280

                #8
                you're right, my fault. just been explaining how a ramdac works on my 'home forum', gathering.tweakers.net (don't bother to check it out unless you're dutch ) and now i goof up on a simple question like this. sorry bout that.

                Originally posted by Adam_F
                Surely it does not need a RAMDAC for DVI output

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                • Adam_F
                  mini MURCer
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 31

                  #9
                  Maybe this could help?



                  Surely TV encoders need only to be pointed to a correct portion of graphics memory to do their thing?
                  And are completely seperate from RamDacs and DVI encoders
                  Last edited by Adam_F; 22 July 2002, 06:22.
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                  Matrox G550 Dual DVI
                  2x iiyama 4332 17" LCD
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                  • Evildead666
                    Super MURCer
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 3116

                    #10
                    That look like an analog vga monitor connector to me...?
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                    • Adam_F
                      mini MURCer
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 31

                      #11
                      That look like an analog vga monitor connector to me...?
                      Yep, It does to me too

                      And Here is a cable

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                      • GT98
                        FanBoy
                        • Aug 1999
                        • 4408

                        #12
                        Hmm I'm starting to wonder if M put that on the board so they could make an el cheapo Parhelia Varient down the road with out Dual DVI or No DVI at all. Sorta like the RSN Chip thats missing at the top of the board also
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                        • FormerEx-SalesSoup
                          MURCer
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 265

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ssin
                          why shouldn't it be possible? G400 family only had 1 ramDAC and could output to 1 screen and 1 tv at the same time.
                          G400 actually had a secondary RAMDAC at 135MHz. All Matrox DH boards use a second RAMDAC.
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                          • Adam_F
                            mini MURCer
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 31

                            #14
                            Isnt the TV/Video Encoder A RAMDAC of sorts?
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                            2x iiyama 4332 17" LCD
                            2x WD 80000JB (8MB Cache)
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                            • FormerEx-SalesSoup
                              MURCer
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 265

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Adam_F
                              Isnt the TV/Video Encoder A RAMDAC of sorts?
                              if i'm not mistaken, it is merely a video encoding chip and needs a RAMDAC in order to output to the display. therefore, it's not really a RAMDAC in itself.
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