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  • KRSESQ
    Super MURCer
    • Feb 2000
    • 3224

    #1

    Check my math, please...

    We were trying to calculate how the latest model Cray X1 supercomputer compares to the model sitting on your desk. First I want to confirm some "facts" (more like "assumptions") gleaned from our search.

    One "Flop" (F) equals one computational operation;

    A typical AthlonXP performs 9 Flops per clock cycle;

    A typical Pentium4 performs 6 Flops per clock cycle;

    (Forgive my gross oversimplifications)

    Ergo a top-of-the-line AthlonXP @ 3.0 GHz performs 27 Gigaflops;

    A top-of-the-line P4 @ 3.2 GHz performs 19.2 Gigaflops;

    A top-of-the-line Cray X1 performs 52.4 Teraflops (52,400 Gigaflops);

    Making the Cray approximately 1,941 times faster than the 3.0 GHz AthlonXP, or approximately 2,729 times faster than a 3.2 GHz P4 (ignoring the function of system memory).

    Feel free to punch as many holes as necessary in my assumptions/conclusions. For instance, I don't know if my information on Athlon or Pentium operations is correct (I read the White Papers for the Athlon and the Pentium, and only succeeded in confusing the heck out of myself!).

    Thanks for your attention

    Kevin
  • Marshmallowman
    Super MURCer
    • Sep 1999
    • 3416

    #2
    FLOP = floating point operation.
    so your stuff is about floating point speed

    There is other stuff like integer...etc
    and then you can factor in stuff like SSE(2) as well

    But as a generalisation its probably reasonably acccurate

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    • Rob(QG)
      MURCer
      • Apr 2002
      • 268

      #3
      There is one other factor - a top of the line Athlon doesn't run at 3 Gig You would need to multiply the flops per clock by the real clock speed not the PR speed to get the true gigaflop rating.

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      • Brian Ellis
        Super MURCer
        • Sep 1999
        • 9623

        #4
        Conclusion: The Cray should work for RT video
        Brian (the devil incarnate)

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        • GNEP
          Super MURCer
          • Feb 2002
          • 5241

          #5
          That's assuming that the Cray doesn't use a VIA chipset Brian
          DM says: Crunch with Matrox Users@ClimatePrediction.net

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          • KvHagedorn
            Super MURCer
            • Aug 1999
            • 10725

            #6
            I remember calculating once that a 1986 vintage Cray-2 was about equivalent to a PentiumII-400. Now aren't you glad you invested your $15 million in Microsoft and Oracle back then instead of that supercomputer?

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            • Technoid
              Super MURCer
              • Sep 1999
              • 7645

              #7
              that, reminds me.......
              to check a book that depicts cray computers
              If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

              Jeremy Clarkson "806 brake horsepower..and that on that limp wrist faerie liquid the Americans call petrol, if you run it on the more explosive jungle juice we have in Europe you'd be getting 850 brake horsepower..."

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              • Chrono_Wanderer
                Super MURCer
                • Mar 2002
                • 2540

                #8
                @KvH: that's assuming you have 15M

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                • KRSESQ
                  Super MURCer
                  • Feb 2000
                  • 3224

                  #9
                  There is one other factor - a top of the line Athlon doesn't run at 3 Gig You would need to multiply the flops per clock by the real clock speed not the PR speed to get the true gigaflop rating.
                  Auugggghhhh! I knew that! Thanks.

                  Kevin

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                  • Kooldino
                    Super MURCer
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 3026

                    #10
                    Most of my points were already stated by other members.

                    Also, don't forget you're not comparing apples to apples. I'm pretty sure a Cray is more than a 32 bit chip, in which case it is more capable of doing high precision in HARDWARE, whereas your athlon would have to do it in software, which would take much longer.

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