Toddler survives three weeks alone on ketchup

[RhinoZ]

Small comfort Chris B., if the father is also an idiot. He dated and got a 20yr old preggers. And then has limited contact with his kid during divorce.
That's three strikes..your OUT

[High_Jumbllama]

Dated? He was married. I've seen plenty of instances where the spouse that has the kid will not let the other spouse see the kid ir will give them a big hassle and restrictive times about it.

[THE_Editor]

I agree with the sentiments about what should happen to the mother (NO capital M)..

But look at it through the childs eyes..

"I want mummy"

To her, those Police that took her away are the baddies

She's too young to understand mummy is a class one arshole !!

And as I read it, she's been taken into care, So this bright young girl with an amazing will to survive will probably be shoved from pillar to post, and spend the rest of her life looking for lost love

What a sad thing to happen to an innocent child. I guess its the lesser of two evils.

[Chrono_Wanderer]

OMFG a 2 yr old treated like this...

that's just wrong.

How come there are so many stupid things happening around the world???

[KvHagedorn]

Because there are so many stupid people.. and if her mother's that way, the apple probably won't fall too far from the tree.

People like this breed while responsible intelligent people decide they prefer to remain childless for whatever wrongheaded reason. Humans are the only species that humans breed for their least desirable traits.

[Wombat]

Originally posted by RhinoZ
Small comfort Chris B., if the father is also an idiot. He dated and got a 20yr old preggers. And then has limited contact with his kid during divorce.
That's three strikes..your OUT

Way to spout off uninformed.

It is is my understanding that the father was <B>already</B> seeking custody prior to this incident.

Maybe it's different in Canada, but here the mother almost always gets custody, and even the most proper of fathers has an uphill battle getting any kind of custody.

[Technoid]

Originally posted by Wombat
Way to spout off uninformed.

It is is my understanding that the father was <B>already</B> seeking custody prior to this incident.

Maybe it's different in Canada, but here the mother almost always gets custody, and even the most proper of fathers has an uphill battle getting any kind of custody.

And If hey do get it, there will not go many weaks befor the mom acuses the father for being a pedophile....

[RhinoZ]

Woah Woah here..
You're telling me that if you had a two year old kid and you're going through a divorce, that it should be expected that you won't see your kid. What do you pay these lawyers for. I have a few friends that went through a divorce and not seeing their kid was never a problem. And yes it's true, the courts favour the mother too many times for full custody and I don't agree with it but it is changing. You can ask my friend. He won.

Now back to my comments for a second. The Mother was in jail for 3 weeks. The Father never once phoned, visited or anything during that time. That's wrong, heck after two days I'd be freaking. I would think that the mother would have left the State with the kid if we were going through a divorce. Not to mention that he didn't know his wife was in jail. Even the police were a little slow on this one. Anyways That's strike one.

Strike two. The mother is 22 yrs old, the little girl is two yrs old. That makes the mother 20yrs old when she had the baby. Minus 8-9 months for being pregnant, she around 19yrs old. Say they boinked on their first date. He's 30yrs old and she's 19. That strike three.

That's how I came up with the notion that the father is probably just as bad as the mother. Sorry if I'm a little hard on the guy without knowing all the facts, but at thirty years old you better start being responsible for your actions.

[Grail]

Rhinoz,
I find a few issues with your reasoning...

1. The mother probably doesn't have a phone or it was disconnected a long time ago. Typically, people who are poor enough (not that that gives them an excuse to commit crimes) to shoplifting and writing bad cheques; they don't have all of the "basic" utilities you and I are used to.

2. I know of at least a few couples where one parent (usually the mother) who won't let the father's see their children for long periods of time. Usually at least twice a month (lucky for weekly visits), sometimes longer. What can be done when society at large thinks that mother's are the "best" until proven otherwise?

[RhinoZ]

Wow,
You guys scare me. I find it totally beyond belief that a mother and a father can forget about their child for three weeks. The mother who was in jail did not say anything to anybody that she left her two year old daugther at home alone. Phone or no phone, poor or rich there is no excuse for that to happen. My parents were not rich either, we had food in the house and clothes on my back but we did not have cable or colecovision. I remember we got a colour TV in mid 70's.
I hope I never have to go through a divorce, but who's going to stop me from seeing my kids, or calling my kids on the phone. Maybe it can happen once, or maybe twice as part of "the game", but that's as far it will go. No court will allow a mother not let a father see their kids. Now unless the father is an S*B then I hope the courts will crucify the father so he would have no contact with his kids so that he doesn't have a chance to mold his kids into his own image.
Sorry for blowing this way out of the water, but I'm a little disappointed in some of the excuses.
And hey.. it's only my second rant on this forum. My first one was when my little 4 yr old girl held up a pair of thongs in her size at Walmart and asked me what they were.
Later.

[Dilitante1]

unfortunately, the US court system when it comes to family law sees the mother as the better parent by default......it is the father who must proove to the courts that he is the better parent byany means except for criticizing the mother (unless she has done documented acts of stupidity)

once paperwork is filed for divorce and custody there is nothing guaranteeing visitation except the woman's whims
(if no ppwk is filed you have more rights to take your child from babysitters, extended family, etc..)

[RedRed]

Rinoz

The sad thing about divorce is that when 2 parties split, the mother USUALLY has all the power.....

The courts DO uphold the mothers 'rights' first - I have seen it. A friend of mine (here in Ireland) had to take his case to court to force the mom of his child to actually allow him to have his visits - after an earlier court gave him visiting rights - she would intentionally miss the randevous... after a few months of this she acused him of abusing his daughter on a visit - it was thrown out COMPLETELY by the social workers involved in his case.

By the time he won his visiting rights through the court, MOM had convinced the kid - around 4 at this time, that dad was a demon who would kill her! The kid was so freaked out that he had to voluntarially stop visiting!




Last time I noticed, it wasnt ilegal to be married to a 19 year old!

The Father never once phoned

Courts probably prevented it - they often do, especially if he was seeking costody..

[knirfie]

wow, that proves the fact that you can survive on tomato ketchup

[Admiral]

Don't try that at home

[KvHagedorn]

Originally posted by RedRed

By the time he won his visiting rights through the court, MOM had convinced the kid - around 4 at this time, that dad was a demon who would kill her! The kid was so freaked out that he had to voluntarially stop visiting!

This is just pure evil. I would sue her for defamation and child abuse (mental cruelty, telling someone that young and impressionable that her daddy is a demon.. the very idea!)