If these were small steps, then now we are taking a giant leap into space.

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  • Wulfman
    Super MURCer
    • Oct 2000
    • 1662

    #1

    If these were small steps, then now we are taking a giant leap into space.

    I guess I have the job to report this if nobody else wants to: China has finally managed to place the first taikonaut in space. How long will it take them to reach for the moon?

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    mfg
    wulfman
    Last edited by Wulfman; 15 October 2003, 12:57.
    "Perhaps they communicate by changing colour? Like those sea creatures .."
    "Lobsters?"
    "Really? I didn't know they did that."
    "Oh yes, red means help!"
  • Jon P. Inghram
    Super MURCer
    • Oct 1999
    • 3878

    #2
    Someone forgot to tell them that the moon is a tad bit further away than low Earth orbit.

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    • High_Jumbllama
      Super MURCer
      • Dec 1999
      • 4522

      #3
      Perhaps, but is is still an incredible achievement and there is something to be said for doing it yourself rather than depending on others.

      Edit:
      Fixed spelling.
      Last edited by High_Jumbllama; 15 October 2003, 13:17.

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      • Wulfman
        Super MURCer
        • Oct 2000
        • 1662

        #4
        and before someone posts that they bought all the technology from the russians: give them credit for what they have archieved and how they develeoped their own style, as their gear is definitly different.

        mfg
        wulfman
        "Perhaps they communicate by changing colour? Like those sea creatures .."
        "Lobsters?"
        "Really? I didn't know they did that."
        "Oh yes, red means help!"

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        • K6-III
          Super MURCer
          • Dec 2000
          • 2253

          #5
          Not even close to just buying the technology from the russians.

          Better than the Soyuz in every way;

          More internal volume
          MUCH newer avionics than anything else, including the Shuttle
          Self-developed Long March II-F carrier rocket with greater capacity than the Soyuz carrier rocket, the R7.
          Auto rotating solar arrays to constantly point at the sun.
          ...and the kicker...apparently designed for use beyond Low Earth Orbit with but a change of the heatsheild.

          Note that the Soyuz was originally the Soviet capsule for going to the moon. It really makes sense to follow that as a standard, given that it is the safest thing to fly to date and good for both LEO and beyond LEO.

          I'd give it a couple years until the CZ-5E rocket is made available, along the lines of the Russian Proton in launch capacity, and space stations ala the Russian Salyut are assembled. Expect them to be used as a staging ground for lunar missions, whereas the ISS with its high orbital inclination is useless in that regard. I'd also expect them to be used as orbital reconissaince platforms like the Salyut was.

          I take it they won't be stupid enough to waste Shenzhou's on going to ISS...
          Let us return to the moon, to stay!!!

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          • Gurm
            MS Fanboy
            • Aug 1999
            • 11460

            #6
            Interesting. This might prompt us to return to the moon, although I doubt it. I don't know if there's anything there worth having, but honestly I wouldn't want the Chinese to have sole custody of the lunar surface!

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            • Wulfman
              Super MURCer
              • Oct 2000
              • 1662

              #7
              from what I've read it is already possible to link 2 of these capsules together to form a rudimentary "space station".

              mfg
              wulfman
              "Perhaps they communicate by changing colour? Like those sea creatures .."
              "Lobsters?"
              "Really? I didn't know they did that."
              "Oh yes, red means help!"

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              • Technoid
                Super MURCer
                • Sep 1999
                • 7645

                #8
                hehe, they maight even be able to hold clarkes time table
                If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

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                • Chrono_Wanderer
                  Super MURCer
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 2540

                  #9
                  First of all, congrats Yang Liwei and China

                  Second of all, I think Chinese have EXTREMELY aggressive plans in these 2 decades for their space and military program. Take their J-10 for example, they used to own/make MiG-21s which are jokes. So suddenly they roll out a 4th generation fighter with virtually no piror aricraft building experience, and buy hundreds of Sukhois from the Russians to modenize the PLAAF. Pretty agressive I say.

                  Well, Wulfman is right, they have aggressive plans to build their own space station within this decade. (I think it was stage 2 of their manned space program).

                  Actually, I think Chinese going to moon is a waste of money. They really should fix up their social problems within their country first. Actually I think they can do this concurrently lol... its jsut a matter of whatever they will do it or not... Eastern side of China is so poor its not even funny.

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                  • KvHagedorn
                    Super MURCer
                    • Aug 1999
                    • 10725

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Wulfman
                    and before someone posts that they bought all the technology from the russians: give them credit for what they have archieved and how they develeoped their own style, as their gear is definitly different.

                    mfg
                    wulfman
                    I was gonna say it was all that spying done here under the lax Clintonista regime.

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                    • KvHagedorn
                      Super MURCer
                      • Aug 1999
                      • 10725

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Technoid
                      hehe, they maight even be able to hold clarkes time table
                      For those of us who aren't serious sci-fi nuts, what is that, exactly?

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                      • Chrono_Wanderer
                        Super MURCer
                        • Mar 2002
                        • 2540

                        #12
                        ok, I think to a certain extinct they did get support from the Russians. after all, they do have very close military tides. Interesting thing is this program went so smoothly too, right on schedule. But I hear Yang Liwei claims that he got training at Russia for 1 week only, so if this claim is true maybe the Chinese actually did some internsive works. Its strange that doesn't even have his own aircraft carrier, but has his own manned spacecraft lol...

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                        • Wombat
                          Super MURCer
                          • Aug 2000
                          • 9498

                          #13
                          Yes, it's similar to Soyuz. But, don't forget that the Soyuz is surprisingly similar to the GE design proposed for the Apollo missions.
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                          • westonez
                            mini MURCer
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 5

                            #14
                            Its strange that doesn't even have his own aircraft carrier, but has his own manned spacecraft lol...
                            __________________________________________________ __________________________________

                            As a attack unit a aircraft carrier is limited.
                            But as a space or moon based launch platform.
                            Much more bang for your bucks, er yen?

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                            • High_Jumbllama
                              Super MURCer
                              • Dec 1999
                              • 4522

                              #15
                              He got back safely.

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