Concorde's last flight

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  • VJ
    Moderator
    • Mar 2001
    • 9733

    #16
    The Russian Tupolev 144 (supersonic airliner) is perhaps an alternative. Amazing to think that it flew before Concorde...


    According to this:

    work is still ongoing to make a successor by 2010...


    Jörg
    pixar
    Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tomorrow. (James Dean)

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    • Brian Ellis
      Super MURCer
      • Sep 1999
      • 9623

      #17
      Jörg

      Would you fly in one?
      Brian (the devil incarnate)

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      • Technoid
        Super MURCer
        • Sep 1999
        • 7645

        #18
        Originally posted by Brian Ellis
        Jörg

        Would you fly in one?
        Knowing how rugged and reliable Soviet planes used to be, YES!

        The rusian concord plane that crashed at the french airshow was "forced" down by a Mirage
        If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

        Jeremy Clarkson "806 brake horsepower..and that on that limp wrist faerie liquid the Americans call petrol, if you run it on the more explosive jungle juice we have in Europe you'd be getting 850 brake horsepower..."

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        • Jon P. Inghram
          Super MURCer
          • Oct 1999
          • 3878

          #19
          Originally posted by VJ

          Anyone knew that at Mach 2 the plane is 15 cm longer than on the ground ?
          That's an urban legend, the time dilation effect from it traveling at mach 2 actually makes it several cm shorter.

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          • VJ
            Moderator
            • Mar 2001
            • 9733

            #20
            Brian: Sure, why not...

            Jon: Really ? Strange how many "reliable" sources still mention this...

            (now where is that murcer that checks out urban legends ? )


            Jörg
            pixar
            Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tomorrow. (James Dean)

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            • Brian Ellis
              Super MURCer
              • Sep 1999
              • 9623

              #21
              Originally posted by Jon P. Inghram
              That's an urban legend, the time dilation effect from it traveling at mach 2 actually makes it several cm shorter.
              Sorry, Jon. If that were so, they would have been able to use far less titanium and more aluminium in the construction. I believe the skin temperature of the parts subject to the most air friction reaches >200°C at full gallop. Aluminium alloys are subject to phase changes, weakening them, at this temperature. Titanium is stable to a much higher temperature, but it still has a temperature coefficient of linear expansion.
              Brian (the devil incarnate)

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              • ZokesPro
                Serial Murcerer
                • Sep 2000
                • 8325

                #22
                I always wanted to fly in one of those, now I guess I can't.
                Titanium is the new bling!
                (you heard from me first!)

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                • Jon P. Inghram
                  Super MURCer
                  • Oct 1999
                  • 3878

                  #23
                  It was a JOKE, which should have been pretty obvious with the "time dilation" thing.

                  To squash a real aeronautical myth: You know the one about the SR-71's (rest in peace ) wings which were supposed to leak until they expand from the heat from supersonic flight? The truth is they're not supposed to leak fuel, the sealant they used in the wings burned off after a number of flights, but since it was difficult to clean out and reapply they just put up with the leaks.

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                  • Chrono_Wanderer
                    Super MURCer
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 2540

                    #24
                    man, this is sad news. guess they were great in their service though.

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                    • Marshmallowman
                      Super MURCer
                      • Sep 1999
                      • 3416

                      #25
                      From what I heard the general airline downturn after 9/11 was one of the nails in concorde's coffin.

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                      • bsdgeek
                        Super MURCer
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 1543

                        #26
                        Doesn't look like there will be any museum for Concorde, they're selling off the pieces.

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                        • gangster
                          MURCer
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 316

                          #27
                          Originally posted by bsdgeek
                          Doesn't look like there will be any museum for Concorde, they're selling off the pieces.
                          Somebody will get one here and there.
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