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  • KvHagedorn
    Super MURCer
    • Aug 1999
    • 10725

    #31
    Well, what I was saying is that hearing is 90% about the physical health of your ears and 10% about the attention you devote to listening. There is almost no need for "training" or "excercising." Any healthy person could notice the difference in sound quality between differing classes of equipment.

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    • Indiana
      Super MURCer
      • Mar 2000
      • 2410

      #32
      Originally posted by Jammrock
      ROFLMAO!!!!!

      What if they have a Denon/Yamaha reciever hooked up to B&W speakers using a SP/DIF pass-through as their computer speakers?
      It's more a Marantz/Onkyo receiver hooked up to ELAC speakers here...

      You don't need the absolutely best hifi equipment to hear the difference - the average 1000$ system will do

      Of course you most likely won't be able to get the difference with your $100-200 PC speakers, even (or should I say especially.. ) if they carry a big THX logo.
      But we named the *dog* Indiana...
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      • gt40
        This space for rent
        • Sep 1999
        • 3973

        #33
        Originally posted by KvHagedorn
        Well, what I was saying is that hearing is 90% about the physical health of your ears and 10% about the attention you devote to listening. There is almost no need for "training" or "excercising." Any healthy person could notice the difference in sound quality between differing classes of equipment.
        Put your hands up everyone that has walked into a stereo store/electronic store and have instantly realized that a pair of speakers have been out of phase?
        I just turn around and walk back out - the salesppl abviously have NO clue.
        Yeah, well I'm gonna build my own lunar space lander! With blackjack aaaaannd Hookers! Actually, forget the space lander, and the blackjack. Ahhhh forget the whole thing!

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        • KvHagedorn
          Super MURCer
          • Aug 1999
          • 10725

          #34
          Hmm.. ok, I admit it's been some time since I heard a pair of speakers out of phase, so you might have a point there.

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          • TransformX
            Super MURCer
            • Sep 2003
            • 4946

            #35
            What does speakers out of phaze mean ? Connecting the (+) and (-) in reverse so it sounds crappy ?
            "For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism."

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            • KvHagedorn
              Super MURCer
              • Aug 1999
              • 10725

              #36
              Yes. Especially in the bass, the signals can cancel each other out, and do so in a very non-uniform way.

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              • az
                Moderator
                • Feb 2001
                • 9336

                #37
                Can you only hear this when you have two speakers, and one of them is out of phase, or is it that noticeable even with only one speaker (or both out of phase)? Is it safe to try at home, just to hear how it sounds?

                AZ
                There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                • KvHagedorn
                  Super MURCer
                  • Aug 1999
                  • 10725

                  #38
                  Only a pair can be out of phase with each other. When you switch the positive and negative wires on only one (but not the other) of the two speakers, that means that while one speaker is "pushing" the other is "pulling," which results in the discordance we are talking about. If you switched both, things would actually sound fine.

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                  • Wombat
                    Super MURCer
                    • Aug 2000
                    • 9498

                    #39
                    Being out of phase can be relative though. Yes, having the polarities set opposite is obvious. But any time you're positioned 1/2,3/2,5/2 (etc) wavelengths closer to one speaker than the other, frequencies will cancel out.
                    Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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                    • Indiana
                      Super MURCer
                      • Mar 2000
                      • 2410

                      #40
                      Originally posted by KvHagedorn
                      Yes. Especially in the bass, the signals can cancel each other out, and do so in a very non-uniform way.
                      Well, anyone connecting speakers who is toally deaf should easily notice this. Out-of-phase speakers give me a certain headache (besides their crappy sound)...
                      But we named the *dog* Indiana...
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