So Much for donating your body to science ;)

[GT98]

U.S. Army blew up donated bodies

[Brian Ellis]

You put a in the title. I don't think this is at all funny. At the very least, it is a breach of trust and, I suspect, probably criminal. As a pacifist who has requested his body goes for medical research, I would come back and haunt those responsible if I found my cadaver was used for military purposes.

Furthermore, as the devil incarnate, it is difficult for me to patch these bodies together again for their "life" in my eternity.

[DukeP]

Lol.

Still good sport and all.

In Denmark we use pigs. Off course we _DO_ have a somewhat larger surpluss of pigs than of humans here. Not sure if thats the case in the US.


~~DukeP~~

[KvHagedorn]

I wanna go out like Burt Lancaster in Rocket Gibraltar. Have my relatives put me in a boat and shove me out to sea and fire flaming arrows at me.

Oh, and a full orchestra playing the final scene from Götterdämmerung would be nice.

[GT98]

Originally posted by Brian Ellis
You put a in the title. I don't think this is at all funny.

Nope its a

But anyway I found it slightly amusing that people wanted their bodies donated to science, thinking they would be used to in autopsy or the like, but they where used to test out anti-land mine equipment instead....still being used for science though

[MultimediaMan]

You know, the Late Sam Kinison had a skit, based in fact, about cadavers used for "recreational activities" by a certain group of people. Given that choice, put my please put my corpse in a minefield and blast away.

[Tempest]

Originally posted by KvHagedorn
I wanna go out like Burt Lancaster in Rocket Gibraltar. Have my relatives put me in a boat and shove me out to sea and fire flaming arrows at me.

You macho man you.
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Oh, I see... That's AFTER you've died. Gotcha.

Edit: Was about to suggest some methods that might make your wish come true a little sooner

[KvHagedorn]

ROFL

[bsdgeek]

Related story was in the news a couple of days ago where the head of this stuff at UCLA ( I believe it was UCLA) was selling body parts from these donated corpses.

[Podfrog]

bad jokes

In Denmark we use pigs. Off course we _DO_ have a somewhat larger surpluss of pigs than of humans here. Not sure if thats the case in the US.

well, here in the US, we hold that many of the people are pigs.

anyhow, read this:

Tulane receives up to 150 cadavers a year from donors but needs only between 40 and 45 for classes

what do you plan to do with the extra corpses, use them for decoration? besides, the army is using the corpses to test the safety of their equipment. i'm all for that.

[RedRed]

I think that the issue is that the people donating the bodies expect that they will be either used for 'real' science OR training new medics. The dont, as a rule, expect their cadaver blown up!

These are not 'scrap' bodies - these are bodies that people have agreed can be used...
Its a consent thing...
You have to have a legally precisely defined EXPLICIT consent to use a cadaver (or most treatments).

One way Explicit consent is void is if the client is not aware of the full potential implication of giving the consent - in this case is being blown up MEDICAL ? Probably not - or at least it is grey - looking for litagation to test....


Pod
While 40 or 45 cadavers may be used for doctor training per year, in most countries, dentistry is as big a consumer of cadavers... Then there can be actual research as well.... the 40-45 would refere to docs only, I would guess....
RedRed

[MultimediaMan]

RedRed, it's plain you've never seen a posthumous remains release form here in the U.S.; They could use you for dogchow with the form most people sign.

"Organ Donors" usually have quite a few parts used in Pharmaceuticals removed and sent to a lab for processing; Thyroid, Pituitary Glands, etc...

[paulcs]

Re: bad jokes

Originally posted by Podfrog
what do you plan to do with the extra corpses, use them for decoration?

Soylent Green?

Paul

[Chrono_Wanderer]

wtf. sorry guys, but this is the most messed up thing I have ever heard of... I agree with that prof mentioned in the article. It makes me think donating dead body for so-called medical research is meaningless. If that's the case, I don't see why anyone should donate their bodies anymore. For one I won't donate mine if this is the case, but who knows, society in 70 years later may force you to donate. society is getting more and more messed up in the wrong direction (IMO)

And what's this thing with selling bodies. So now the human body has a price tag on it? wtf.

edit: and this is one of the things that make me think US is messed up. (no offend to the americans here, but I am saying that these things are messed up, and the people who came up with it. I am not referring to the average American citizens)

[Podfrog]

the human body has always had a price tag, though usually for useable living organs,

and speaking of which, what sort of medical research could one do on dead tissue? [it's a question, i really don't know]

and furthermore, why would anyone care what happened to their corpse? you're dead, remember?